1179 – Holy Terry Gilliam – Mandaborian on Mandalorian S3E7

Episode 1179 – Holy Terry Gilliam – Mandaborian on Mandalorian Chapter 23 S3 E7

 

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SCOOTER: Friends beyond the binary, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Yodish beings, and friends of Mandalore…there’s something about the term ‘Yodish being’ that I just love saying. I think…well, someone would say, what do you mean, Yodish being? I’d say, I’m not even actually sure what ‘ish’ means. Is this a sleepy-ish podcast or is it sleepy-esque? Yod-esque, Yoda-esque…Yoda-esque, I guess. Is that anything like odalesk? If you’re wondering where you are, you may be in the right place. This is Sleep With Me, the podcast that’s here to keep you company while you fall asleep. We say the podcast that puts you to sleep.

 

It does put a lot of people to sleep eventually, but I’m really here to be your friend in the deep, dark night because you deserve a friend in the deep, dark night, someone to keep you company, take your mind off of stuff, because you deserve a good night’s sleep and you’re probably frustrated if you’ve been trying to find stuff to put you to sleep or you’ve had trouble sleeping, or you’re going through something that’s keeping you up. So, I’m here to help with that by being your friend and rambling on and on and on. This show is a bit different, so give it a few tries. That’s just what most regular listeners say; hey, it took two or three tries for me to realize, oh, this podcast doesn’t go anywhere. He’s always rambling about nothing.

 

He really doesn’t know what ‘ish’ means, so he doesn’t know what he…he knows what he means when he says, Yodish being, because…has anyone said that…they probably have, but I’m…I don't know my time…I don't know my rear end from my timeline, if you know what I’m saying. For sure. So, welcome to Sleep With Me. Oh, what we got coming up; so, there’s support — that’s how the show comes out free — then there will be a long, meandering intro meant to ease you into bedtime. Don’t miss out on that. Then we’ll have our Mandalorian coverage of Episode 7. I don't know what we’re gonna call it. I’ll probably try to think of a French word for the title. Or, I spy with my little Yodish being eyes, a being oh, so cute, and me hopefully going off topic and getting mixed up to put you to sleep. Welcome to Sleep With Me, the podcast that puts you to sleep. Thanks for making it possible, my patron peeps.

 

INTRO: [INTRO MUSIC] Hey, are you up all night tossing, turning, mind racing? Trouble getting to sleep? Trouble staying asleep? Well, welcome. This is Sleep With Me, the podcast that puts you to sleep. We do it with a bedtime story. Alls you need to do is get in bed, turn out the lights, and press Play. I’m gonna do the rest. What I’m going to attempt to do is create a safe place where you could set aside whatever’s keeping you awake, whether that’s thoughts that you’re thinking about about the Pazt, the present, the future…thinking stuff, rumination. Holy cow, what a apt word; rumination. Rhymes with how rumination makes me…usually what rumination for me results in is ruination.

 

I wonder if there’s a store, a rune-based store, that was Rune Nation…Rune Nation, or a collective…there’s got…there’s a lot of rune-based games, right, and rune-based puzzles. But just a thought that popped in my head when I was trying…oh, whatever’s keeping…thoughts, so anything you’re thinking about. I’m sure there’s people that…there’s probably some people out there that have positive associations with the word rumination. I wish I could be like, yeah, I’m just gonna ruminate in the middle of a rhyme, 'cause it is good for rhyming if I was doing hip-hop about rhyming…about thinking. But usually it doesn’t come up. Usually I’m not in any rap battles, ever, but definitely…I mean, I’m imagining them at bedtime. But actually, I’m not, because that would probably help me fall asleep. I’d say, oh, that’s nice.

 

It would be more like, how come you’ve never turned your ruminations into…? I’d say, well, I do, kind of, like with the sleep…no, no; I mean, why didn’t you in the past? But don’t you know that the past kinda led me to make Sleep With Me, which does have rumination with a positive result? Then it would say, by the way, do you remember that time you spilled milk all over yourself in fifth grade in front of the whole…? Oh, thanks. Let’s think about that for a little while in a concentrated way where we really just think on it. Isn’t that what…is that what rumination is? So, thoughts, it could be anything you’re…feelings coming up for you, like emotions related to those thoughts or that are there.

 

Could be physical sensations, changes in time, temperature, routine, work schedule, personal schedule, you could have something coming up or you could be going through something, or in the middle of something. The reason I go through all that…and I know this is a podcast; I know it’s, whatever, digital. Maybe you’re using some digital/analog converter, though, so now I’m analog again. I don't know if that’s even possible, but…have I been…am I ever analogged in this process of making the show? Hopefully I’ll have you sawing like a log, and I’ll be throwing logs on the old rambling pointless meander train to keep it going. What was I saying? Whatever’s…oh, the reason I go through…is so that you know you’re not alone.

 

When I say you’re not alone, I mean, I know how it feels tossing, turning, mind racing, trouble getting to sleep, trouble staying asleep. I can relate to how it feels, even if I don’t know how you feel and I’m not…I haven’t gone through what you’re going through. Even if I can’t relate to it, there is someone who’s listening right now who’s probably been through something similar, and they know how tough it is. They want you to know…and I can tell you this from the feedback I get from the show; they want you to know you’re not alone because they’ve been through it, too, and they know how it feels. I say that over and over again because it’s important, just like the other part of it’s important; you deserve a good night’s sleep. You deserve a little relief from whatever it is that’s keeping you up.

 

You deserve a break and a bedtime you could feel neutral about or look forward to. That is important, incredibly important. So, it really is my honor to make this show, because I know if your life is more manageable, your life is gonna be a little bit better, and if you could be out there flourishing in the world, what better thing could there be? That means our world’s a better place 'cause your world’s a better place. I just want to play a small part on…part in it if I can. Now, this podcast does not work for everybody because it is different, and I’ll explain some of the differences coming up, here. But here’s where it starts; I send my voice across the deep, dark night. I’m gonna use lulling, soothing, creaky, dulcet tones, which means my voice is not traditionally soothing, then I’m gonna go on pointless meanders and superfluous tangents, which maybe you’ve already gone on a few.

 

But it’s all to keep you company so that you could fall asleep. Some of the things that are different about the show other than that my voice is not traditionally soothing and that a lot of the stuff I say is a bit nonsensical is…and that I don’t necessarily know what words mean…I mean, I know what Yodish being means. It means a being like Yoda, right? Or that’s what it means to me. You know, that’s a Yodish being. I would say, any…that’s also a metaphorical phrase because you could say that, oh, my grandmother’s a Yodish being. She’s wise and she’s got furry ears and, I don't know, maybe…I don't know if she uses those kind of phrases like Yoda. Or you could say, my baby sister’s like that, you know? She’s a Yodish…she’s an oh, so…oh, no, baby Oso’s the name I call…Grogu-goosh…grogushish being.

 

You say, yeah, my baby sister’s like a grogushish being. You say, that would only…that barely works in a sleep podcast, kid. One day, you’ll make a sleep…Grogu…there was one time…I’m pretty sure this was from Saturday Night Live. Joe Piscopo…no, no, it was Billy Crystal. I’m pretty sure that…now, someone will correct me, so I’m not saying I’m correct. So, Billy Crystal…I don't think Billy Crystal was…I think Billy Crystal was just a guest host, maybe, on Saturday Night Live. Billy Crystal was a very big movie star. I’m not saying this in any way…like, this isn’t a bit. I’m just filling people in that aren’t familiar. So, Billy Crystal was this huge comedy movie star. Actually, I was just talking about the movie Running Frightened with somebody. But before that, Billy Crystal was a comedian.

 

I’m pretty sure that I’m 40% right here, and that Billy Crystal…so, Billy Crystal was a comedian before Billy Crystal was a movie star. Billy Crystal became a rom-com star. So, if you’re a fan of rom-coms, you may or may not be familiar with Billy Crystal, but you will be. You say, what in the Nora Ephron…? You don’t know who Billy Crystal is? I’d say, well, now you get to know who Nora Ephron and Billy Crystal are. Then somebody’s like, Nora…Billy Crystal was never in a Nora Ephron film. I say, oh, okay. Well, that’s a double…then I’d say, that’s even better. Then you get exposed to even more great…but so, this is such a tangent. So, Billy Crystal was a guest on Saturday Night Live, a guest host, I believe, and he had a character…I don't know if the character was a lounge singer who said, you look marvelous.

 

Did Billy Crystal also play Telly Savalas? No. But so, Billy Crystal would say, you look marvelous. Then there was a song where…it was such a popular bit on Saturday Night Live that I think it came out as a song where he was singing, and it was kinda like…a little bit like a lo-fi beat song where it was just him saying, you look marvelous. I think the character was singing a song. Again, if this is incomprehensible to you, just think about the mind that’s creating it. I don't even know why I went on that tangent. I’m not even kidding. It was something about the word ‘marvelous’. I was trying to explain why this podcast…people don’t like it…no. Oh, maybe creaky, dulcet tones? I don't know. Anyway, that was actually a pointless meander, because I have no idea why I started it. But there you go. You could check out Billy Crystal.

 

You may have already seen Billy Crystal before. Again, I just have to remember when I make this show, there is a global audience listening, right, and a lot of people are different ages, so whenever I bring something up that I don’t want to assume everybody knows…that’s why…oh, I think I went from Yoda…oh, Grogugish being. That, for some reason…I was gonna say, that would make a great compliment. This is how I can follow my thoughts sometimes. Then I say, you look Grogushish. Grogushish. Grogushish. You look Grogushish, my dear. She’d say, I look like a baby Yoda? No, I mean, metaphorically. But then, ‘you look marvelous’ popped in my head. So, that’s why this show is just not everybody’s cup of tea, is one, it does take some getting used to…that you just don’t pay attention to me.

 

You just kinda barely listen to me. I’m here to keep talking about something nonsensical, but that you could listen to if you need to. So, it’s a podcast you just barely listen to. It’s also a podcast that doesn’t put you to sleep. I’m here to keep you company while you fall asleep, to be your bore-friend, your bore-bae, your bore-sib, your bore-bud, your bore-bestie, your neigh-bore, your bore-bor, your bore-bruh, your bore…what do we call it? Your bore-bie. That’s a tie…that’s not a tie-in with the film, but bore-bie…that…bore-bie. So, there’s no pressure to fall asleep. That’s why the shows are over an hour. You could fall asleep whenever you fall asleep, and if you can’t sleep…because there are people listening who can, and I care about them deeply, or people that are having a really hard day and they’re listening to this podcast for a break.

 

I care about you, too. In the same way I care about those sets of listeners, I really care about you, and I care about you so much that you don’t need to listen to me, but you could. If you wake up, you could start listening again. Or…I just heard from somebody today, Jim, and he was telling…he was giving me some feedback. He said, oh yeah, I turn the podcast on at about 4:00 AM, when…those nights I wake up at 4:00 AM. So, I’m here whether you’re awake or asleep, whether you’re listening or not, and ideally you just fall asleep and you say…then later, tomorrow evening, you say, well, what do you feel like watching tonight?

 

Say, I don't know, Harry Met…I’m feeling like either Harry Met Sally or Sleepless in Seattle, or that movie with…the movie where Jack Palance had a comeback and did push-ups on the stage of the Oscars because he was a cowboy, and there was other…he was taking…City Slickers, dear. That’s called City…what made you think of that? I don't know. Or, just maybe let…what if we…let’s look up and see when the next Nora Ephron…maybe the…we could watch them in the theatres. How about this idea, totally out of the blue; Ephroncon. Is that…how come that’s not a thing? That could be another sub thing at Romcom Con, the fake…the imaginary…it’s not fake…imaginary rom-com convention that takes place within a romance convention. Yeah, we could have Ephroncon. That would be cool.

 

That’s probably…how would it be financially sustainable? I don't know. But that’s one of the better ideas I’ve ever had, right? No? Well, I think it’s a decent idea. But so, what was I saying? Oh, I’m here to keep you company whether you’re awake or asleep. The other things that take some getting used to is the structure of the show and the fact that when you first get here, one, you’re waiting for the show to start; it never gets started or it takes forever. The other thing is that maybe you just don’t like me. Maybe the show doesn’t work for you. It does take a few tries, so please give it a few tries. But if you already gave up on the show or you’re about to, sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou has tons of other sleep podcasts on there that are just good shows.

 

Most of them are more traditionally normal than this show, I would say. So, oh, structurally…this also throws people off. So, I always finish with explaining the structure of the show and why it’s structured in the way it is. Then you could adjust. So, the show starts out with a greeting; friends beyond the binary, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, so you feel seen and welcomed in. Then I try to say something barely amusing. Whatever I said about Yodish beings…and Grogugish…you’re looking Grogugish, everybody out there. You say, did you just call me Grogugish? I’d say, I did. You say, thanks. It’s like…I’ve been trying to foster my inner Grogu. I say, well, it really shows. I was just also thinking about how I get fuzzy ears, so then I was…but that’s me.

 

So, I was looking at myself in the mirror when I said that. Okay, so, what was I…? Oh, structure of the show. So, that’s the top of the show, then there’s support so the podcast can be free. I’ve just gotten tons of feedback over the past couple months of people that are grateful for that. They’d rather have a ad-supported show, 'cause they’re not in a position to pay for a podcast. So, the people that pay for the podcast and support the sponsors empower us to benefit way more people. Then there’s a intro, which we’re eighteen minutes into, which is a show within a show, not part of the support. But if you try to skip around the support, I guess…I don't know, people think it’s part of the support when they’re not happy, which I get.

 

You’re not able to sleep, first time listening to a podcast, it doesn’t make any sense, it takes two times…two or three times to get used to. I get it. But the intro is a really important part of the podcast. One, it is different every time, and I never know what’s gonna happen. Every once in a while, something happens like all this stuff; Grogugish…I don't know if we’ve ever talked about Billy Crystal, unfortunately, because Billy Crystal’s great. Probably hosted the Oscars, like, ten, fifteen times. Now I gotta figure out that Saturday Night Live stuff…talked about being Grogugish or…now you…now we got secret words. Anyway, I gotta get to…close out this intro. But so…but the real thing about the intro, the reason it goes on and on…the reason it’s different every time is so that you can’t adjust, for regular listeners.

 

I’m trying to explain what the podcast is, but I make it different every time so whatever’s keeping you awake can’t say, well, Scoots is gonna talk about Nora Ephron yet again. ‘Cause that could happen, but you wouldn’t know it was coming. You’d say, he’s in his Ephron phase. I’d say, we could do a Ephron on Ephron; how about that? Now we’re talking. Then, what if we…? We could have the other Ephron host Ephroncon. I don't think we…but anyway, that’s just…these are just ideas that are popping in my head. But the real reason the intro goes on and on and on is that it’s the twilight part of the podcast. While it puts a small percentage of listeners to sleep and a small percentage of listeners skip the intro, for most listeners, it’s part of the wind down whether you’re in bed getting comfortable, doing some other relaxing activity, or getting ready for bed.

 

That’s what’s been shown to work. That’s what’s worked for me personally, is having something to ease me into bedtime. It also gives you something to look forward to. You say, well, I don't know what kind of nonsense Scoots is gonna bring tonight, but at least I know it’ll be there. Do you know there’s almost 600 free episodes in the archives, too? So, if you’re new to the show, that’s a lot of nonsense, almost two year’s worth of nonsense. So, there’s that, and what…? Oh, so that’s the intro, then there’s support, again, so the podcast can be free, and then there…we’ll talk about Mandalorian, Season 3, Episode 7, which is 16 plus 7…4 is 20, so Chapter 23. I did that…I didn’t even need two hands for that math, just 'cause I was able to…8 plus 8 is 16; that one was easy for me.

 

7 plus 8; that…'cause I have dyslexia, that…I needed a little help with that one. Is that what it was? No, it was 7 plus 16, which is 4…now I’m totally lost. It’s Episode 7. So, 8 plus 8 is 16, plus 4, plus 3 is 23. Yeah. I don't know, I thought 14 for a second. So, anyway…so, we’ll talk about The Mandalorian. It’ll be really boring, and I’ll talk…I mean, I’ll just go on and on and on. Then there’s some thank-yous at the end. So, that’s the structure of the show, that’s why I make the show. I’m really glad you’re here. Thanks so much for stopping by. I really hope I can help you fall asleep, and these are the ways I’m able to do it for you for free twice a week.

 

Alright everybody, Scooter here. We’re queuing up Chapter 7, Lesplaz…the…I don't know why spies…I guess The Spies isn’t…I was just wondering, should I put that in the title, The Spy…? A word that would keep people awake, you know? But we’re getting close. This is Chapter 23. You probably heard my math in the intro. Let’s fire this thing up and see what’s what. Starts off with a shot over Oso’s right shoulder, then Oso in the…or Grogu. Atmosphere is breathable. Mandalore not cursed. Bo-Katan correct. Then the armorer…Bo-Katan is gonna bring other Mandalorians in exile back to us so we may join together again. Time to retake Mandalore. Then Axe Woves versus Bo-Katan. Win; Bo-Katan. Says, please give me back my fleet. Not unless you have the Darksaber.

 

Mandalorian says, actually, Bo-Katan is the rightful holder of the Darksaber, because I lost it as part of some sort of Build-A-Bear Workshop, so now I return this blade to its rightful owner. Bo-Katan…blade out, then space…New Republic…extraction of Moff Gideon. Beskar left behind. Something embedded in the cabin wall; Beskar. Beskar alloy. Then we have KOB and…glaring, and then the episode opens. Oh no, first we get the Lucasfilm Limited, then we get the Star Wars thing, along with the music which I’m not hearing, because I’m just…I’m working, here. Oh, we get the cityscape. Neon…music’s pumping. We get some bass going, a little bit like…feeling of Nine Inch Nails, almost. We scroll down, we see an alley. First we’re slowly going down level after level through the skyscrapers. In the end, we see KOB…Officer KOB.

 

Well, first, I don't…we just see really nice hair and a raincoat with the collar turned up. So, I don't know…I mean, I think we could safely assume it’s KOB’s hair. But yeah, then we see Katie O’Brien. I’m not good with letters, but…hands in the pocket now. There’s mist. Holy cow, there’s a lot of mist in this alley. The old misty alley. Then we see…I guess these are probe droids? I don't know what these proper things are called. These are those big droids. It’s got a red eye…makes some sort of digital warbling, according to the captions. Settles down, looks…scans the face…TK2755. That’s who…TK2755. Then it raise…after it scans, TK2755…we see Moff Gideon. Give me your report. Make it quick. I’m in a hurry. Pirates ran into trouble on Nevarro. On your last report, you said they weren’t gonna have support.

 

They did, from Mandalorians. It wasn’t the New Republic. Mandalorians? Which ones? I don't know, ones in armor? Bo-Katan Kryze and a squadron of Mandalorians, Din Djarin and his covert. Those factions don’t get along. We also hear TK whatever’s worried, KOB…TK KOB. Then Moff Gideon says, I’ll deal with the Mandalorians. We see Moff Gideon with a palm projector, then Moff Gideon goes through some laser walls or something, red laser walls. We also see some sort of new soldier, all standing at the ready, different than his last round of robotic soldiers. Then he goes by some tanks where there’s something…not fish. Then he goes into…this would be the worst thing ever. It’s a Zoom meeting, but it’s a full-body Zoom meeting. So, one, you have to be full…you can’t wear comfortable shorts or sweatpants.

 

Two, you gotta be standing up the whole time, and three, you couldn’t be doing something like holding Floam or a fidget toy. You have to be standing at attention. Really a bummer for me. It’s a meeting of Imperial types and they’re kinda bickering, I guess you’d say. Plundering hyperspace ranges…or why are you getting too much attention? We’re supposed to be unorganized remnant warlords. We don’t want to get the New Republic’s attention. Then somebody else says, yeah, but there’s people loyal to the Empire. Why don’t we just tell them? They’re sick of the New Republic. It’s a joke; rules, regulations. Somebody else says, yeah, they’re gonna rally behind us. Moff Gideon rolls in, does some nodding. Then they talk about Grand Admiral Thrawn…will herald a reemergence…when Thrawn arrives.

 

Commander Hux and I got another secret project going. Pellaeon…that’s who’s talking, 'cause Moff Gideon scoffs at him. Once again, running…talking about Thrawn. Just like a box of sea monkeys, not living up to what’s on the advertisement. Says, when’s the Shadow Council…which is who…everybody who’s meeting. When are we gonna see this Thrawn? It’s a secret, dude. Then Gideon says, secrets are my stock and trade. I hear whispers among some of these people. Nothing about any Thrawns. But you said it’s a imminent return. I’d like to return these sea monkeys, but they say they can’t return them. What about new leadership? Other people are egging him on; hear, hear, laughing. They say…this other Hux says, well, I got a plan. They go, what about Pershing’s research? Well, that didn’t work out.

 

Dr. Pershing, New Republic, research is gone, for now, at least. They say, Gideon, I hear about you. You held Pershing and were doing stuff on Nevarro. He goes, it’s none of your business, man. Don’t make you about me. What goes on in my sector is my business. Same goes for every member of the guild, except for the ones I’m pointing out. He goes, but we kinda scrape and claw our resources, waiting for this big plan. You and Pellaeon are the ones that have all the resources and equipment. Maybe you should share it. Everybody says, yeah, this is a sharing circle. We need a sharing hammer. They say, we got your request, by the way; three Praetorian Guards. What, are you…? You got a fancy suit on, too, by the way, Gideon. They say, what…are you trying to be flashy? You starting a club?

 

Reinforcements for your TIE Interceptors and bombers, Gideon says. I need some bombers. They say, like Bomber the tennis player? He goes, no; bombers. You know, TIE things. Balm; put the balm on. They say, okay, well…and he says, I’m increasingly confident the Mandalorians are going to try to retake Mandalore, and that would hamper our efforts. So, Gideon says, don't worry, I’m gonna…don't worry, I’ll take care of it. They all go, okay, great. Better get you that balm and your Praetorian guards, club or no club. Goes, we’ll get…be rid of the Mandalorians once and for all. Then they all say…oh, he says it, long live the Empire, then everybody else says it, too. Then we get the title, and the music feels bigger on this episode and the next episode. Chapter 23, The Splas.

 

Then we have a sky shot of Nevarro, Nevarro’s space port. Everybody’s working together to repair things. So, everybody is kinda helping out, picking up the town, cleaning up things, working together, but then they see this shadow come over the city and they’re like, what’s going on here? There’s a ship in the sky and we see High Magistrate Karga, and a droid comes in. High Magistrate; holy cow. Imperial shuttle. He walks out his balcony and he says, that’s not a shuttle. It’s a light…Imperial light cruiser, or a light cruiser. It’s not Imperial; it’s…look at the  markings. According to my data, it is. Well, it’s got a Mythosaur on there, buddy. These are Mandalorian privateers. Probably half the fleet was taken from the Empire. So, they’re on our side? Well, they’re our treasured guests or welcomed guests. Let’s go greet them.

 

So, then we see a ship coming in. We even see the jets, which is cool, 'cause I didn’t know these ships could land. I always thought they were just stuck in orbit. Then the armorer comes out of a tent as everything’s coming in for a landing. It’s a slow sequence and really cool sequence. We see all the convert…covert Mandalorians getting ready, gathering together as all these ships come in to land. Then we see Oso in Bo-Katan’s lap. Bo-Katan’s hoping everybody’s gonna get along even though they’ve never met, kinda like a wedding or something. The Mandalorian…Din Djarin says, they better get along if they know what’s good for them. It’s also kinda like…I guess this is a bit like a wedding. It’s a gathering of two separate groups that are gonna be bonded together. Why can’t I think of this name?

 

This is not my…it’s not a bit; it’s just, whatever, my dyslexia sometimes…like, Piz, Paz, and Viz, but it’s Paz. Says, hey, take the kids inside, as the Blue Mandalorian Group with Oso and Din Djarin walk…they’re all kinda staring at each other, kinda all glaring. Then they stand face-to-face, group-to-group, obviously not much…and then Wolf Axe…what’s his name takes off his helmet — so do the rest of the blues — then finally, Bo-Katan. There’s some glaring…there’s some serious glaring, of like, oh, you’re not helmet people. But the armorer has the share hammer and says, welcome, fan…fellow Mandalorians. We invite you to make camp. We’ll have dinner later together. Prepare a feast. I did not know the feast would be referring to a older episode where I was wrong, but at least it refers to the older episode.

 

Bo-Katan even says to Paz…or, not to…to Axe Woves, hey, keep it in line. I mean, she says it non-verbally. High Magistrate Karga meets up with Mando. He brings him a bottle of something from Coruscant. Looks like in this world like Nike is making a alcohol…a booze. Oso’s like, what? He says, I guess it’s not enough to share with this whole crew. Then we see an IG droid, which is moving in a very formal way. Grogu’s having a snack as the IG droid comes in, and then we see someone steering it, an Azalean. He goes, what’s up with IG-11? He goes, it’s IG-12. What do you think? Do I like him? He goes, don't worry, it’s just a remote control. It’s base motor functions only…removed his memory circuit. Pilot provides cognition. Then it says…IG-12 says, yes, Grogu likes it.

 

This is when the Anzalean’s like, that’s the baby that wants to hug me. Karga says, this is more of a vehicle. He goes, it’d be easier. I didn’t read between the lines, but he goes, why don’t you put the kid in there? He goes, he’s too little to operate this thing. No, no, no, let me see if he fits. Of course, the Mandalorian does not like this idea, but Karga puts Grogu in there, and there’s a remote…he goes, okay, try it out, kid. He asks Mandalorian or Grogu what he thinks. He goes…even the Mandalorian says, yeah, it’s…goes, he’s too young to operate heavy machinery. Then there’s a yes and no button, so Grogu hits ‘no’ once when he says, maybe when he’s older. No. What do you mean, no? No. He goes, I think he’s saying…Karga says, old…he’s old enough to operate it. Yes. Get him out of there. No. Let him try it out.

 

Let him take a spin around the office. Yes. Not a good idea. He says, come on. Then Grogu rebels and starts walking around as IG-12. Not very good at it. Then there’s a humorous sequence where Grogu says yes…well, a total of five, ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five, twenty-seven times, I think, in this sequence, and I think the next one. Or, no, maybe that just is when he says, yeah, I think he’s old enough to operate it. Yes, yes, yes. Then they go through town still saying yes. There’s fun music. Grogu takes some sort of fruit from a fruit stand without permission. There’s one yes and two nos, 'cause Din Djarin says, you gotta pay for it, man. He accidentally juices, whatever, a papaya. Oh, first he takes some nuts or something, then some sort of papaya or star fruit or something and he juices it all over the salesperson.

 

Yes, yes, no, no. The salesperson does not like that. So, the Mandalorian’s gotta spend more money. Then we go…cut ahead to the feast, which we find out is our friend…friends from…it’s just a little twist I didn’t expect, which I guess I got a kick out of. But I thought they were gonna train those birds to work for them, but, I mean, they…and then we have the camp. There’s whispering and snickering going on, and it’s awkward because there’s two groups. Bo-Katan calls everybody together, says it’s time to retake our homeworld. Planet is not cursed, but there’s still trouble there, like dormant species and magnetic interference. We can’t scan from above.

 

So, I propose we leave Nevarro, move the fleet in orbit, and send down a small recon party, scout the surface, find the great forge, make a perimeter, work together, and then bring everybody else down. A bit of silence greets that proposal, and she says, I need volunteers from both sides. Everybody glares at one another. Nobody says anything. Just like a teacher, they say, I don't know. But of course, Mando stands up. I’ll go. Grogu will, too. Grogu says, you betcha. She nods. Then her old friend says yes, whose name I don't know. Then Axe Wove says, I’ll go. Then Paz Visala says, I’ll go. Then a bunch of…then everybody starts saying, I’ll go, I’ll go. If all the brave people are going, I will. I’ll go. Each side takes turns. Even the armorer says, I’ll go. I will go as well. Bo-Katan nods at the armorer.

 

Everybody starts to gather ‘round, then it’s the next day; everybody’s taking off. Dramatic music…then we have space…oh, so we have them leaving the atmosphere, then we have them coming out of hyperspace into orbit. Oh, no; first we have them coming out of orbit, and…do they go into hyperspace? Do we see that part? No. Then we…yeah, then we have them come out of orbit and orbit around Mandalore. It’s pretty cool, 'cause we see them in a high…a low orbit, and then a scouting party going to the surface. Yeah, we could see the upper atmosphere, which is cool. Then she has to go through the magnetic interference storm stuff. Everybody’s sitting down in the cargo hold, waiting to go. It’s super bumpy and there’s rain, beeping, and stuff. Then they come out of the storm. Everybody gets ready.

 

Mando comes and checks on them, and he looks at everybody, then he goes back. He says, okay, I think they’re ready. But Paz Visala says, it doesn’t look good down there. Then Axe Woves says, I was here when everything went down. Mando’s cape is flapping in the breeze, or cloak. Cape, cloak. You call it a clape; I call it a…you call it a cape, I call it a clape, they call it a cloak. But he says, they’re ready. So, she says…she says, okay, get ready to go, and find a place for me to land. Infill zone or something? I don't know. They go all into the atmosphere, they get landed, they kind of establish…they walk around, look around, start looking at stuff. There’s a lot of broken buildings, there’s the green glass on the ground, but they don’t see anything else. They say, okay, let’s land this thing. Actually, Axe and Paz nod to one another.

 

Landing zone secure. So, Bo-Katan comes in, lands pretty quickly and smoothly, and the ship opens, and Mando comes off, then IG-12, Grogu, and Bo-Katan. Oh, and the armorer. Sorry. Sorry, armorer. This is the way. I forget everything. Oh, so there’s a dramatic exit…delayed exit for Bo-Katan. Also that IG droid, I think, came off there. Oh, then Bo-Katan says, somewhere below is the great forge and the capital. We just gotta find it. We’ll survey the…we’ll find a safety zone in the forge and then we’ll bring down the settlers. There’s more nodding, and she says, let’s go in this direction. She’s very proud and happy, you can see. They fall in kinda two-by-two. They start marching off, and we get another shot…yeah, they’re all marching…not quite two-by-two, I guess. Well, maybe. Oh no, they are two-by-two in that one.

 

We see a lot of rock structures, then we see storms in the distance, really cool sky shots, and Mando catches something on the horizon. He says, okay, there on the horizon, there’s something. Somewhere out there, they said, Terry Gilliam; holy Terry Gilliam, so…'cause they get ready, 'cause there’s just something heading towards them. I don't know why this reminds me of Terry Gilliam. It just does. It’s this giant land…like a ice…like a ship that sails on the ice, you know, with those ice things? It’s a ship…what is that called? Sailing ship that’s made to sail on the icy ground. They say, do you have any food? The people on the ship, and Bo-Katan says, we do. Somebody on the ship says, is that Bo-Katan Kryze? Oh, you wear the crest of the Nite Owls? Yeah, I should hope so, Bo-Katan says.

 

The armorer says, they’re Mandalorians. Yeah, then they say, is that the voice of Lady Bo-Katan Kryze? They say, what in the name of Terry Gilliam is going on there? Then three Mandalorians fly over, and they take their helmets off. They say, we can’t believe it’s you. They actually bow to her. We knew you would not forsake us, Lady Bo-Katan. We are in your service. We’ve stayed in your service. Then it’s nightfall. We’re on the ship. Everybody’s eating. They talk about what happened, you know, and…with the Empire and everything they did. Again, they say, it was a warning to the galaxy 'cause we refused to surrender. Bo-Katan looks touched but she says, actually, that’s not true. I did surrender to…they say, you surrendered? Oh, dear. Holy…and then people say, I knew it. Bo-Katan says, don’t judge me.

 

I mean, she says that with her eyes. She goes, our forces…the Night of A Thousand Tears. Defeat was imminent and I met with Moff Gideon. The ISB had reached out to me to negotiate a ceasefire; in exchange for submitting to the Empire and disarming, all remaining cities were gonna be left alone, and that’s how Moff Gideon got the Darksaber. Everybody says, my goodness. Bo-Katan says, it was the only chance I had. I don't know what I…and Grogu is watching. Grogu blinks once. But then he did what he wanted to do, old Moff Gideon. Didn’t keep his promises. Then everyone says, Moff Gideon. They say, what about these people? The armorer says, we were hiding on Concordia. Were you the calculator watch team? No. That doesn’t exist anymore. No more calculator watch team. Bo-Katan says, you know what?

 

Division and squabbling has…what’s caused our problems. We’ve always been too powerful for outside enemies, and it’s our own division that destroys us. They slow-zoom on Bo-Katan, then they slow-zoom on Mando, then they do a wipe; it’s a moon in the sky. Bo-Katan’s staring at the moon. Mando comes up behind her and stands there. He goes, I had no idea. We were taught that everyone had forsaken the way, that you were selfish and uncaring. He goes, now I get it. You were right. Bo-Katan says, I was selfish, and this is what happened. Mandalorian goes right up to her; says, don't worry, we’re gonna rebuild this. Isn’t that our history? Thousands of years, we’ve been up and down, but we’ve gotten through it. She turns around. She goes, I don't know if I can hold everything together. It’s too much animosity.

 

Alls I have is this blade to unify our people. Mandalorian says, well, that’s just a symbol. It means nothing to me or my people, nor does station or your family. What means more to me is honor and loyalty and character, and the sharing hammer, and these are the reasons I serve you, Lady Kryze. Your song is not yet written. I will serve you until it is. The Mandalorian bows and heads off, and Bo-Katan says, okay. She has a little…a determined look in her face, then we see some of the people on the ship aren’t feeling so well. It’s actually…the armorer says, hey, not everybody on the ship is feeling well. What if we take them back up to the…we could have…we could give them water, we could give them proper beds. Bo-Katan says, okay, but we gotta continue at first light, the rest of us. So, they kinda already decide to split up.

 

Agreed. Then Bo-Katan says, Captain, anybody well enough to join us in the search for the great forge? The captain says, I can do better than that. I know exactly where it is. We’ll bring you there. Bo-Katan nods. Then it’s first light. Onward, Mandalorians, to the forge. Everybody gets ship-shape and they head off. So, a very cool sequence of getting the ship moving. The music’s playing, and then the armorer takes off to bring everybody back to the fleet. We watch her take off. Mando, Bo-Katan, and IG-12, Grogu…we see the armorer go through the storm, we see everybody on the ship with the armorer…needing some rest. Then we see the ship going along, and…we see the ship going along; they have…then we even see Paz and Axe playing some sort of chess…glow chess or something, but I guess it has adjustable rules, 'cause they say…he goes, you can’t move like that. Axe Woves says that.

 

He goes, yeah, it’s a flank jump. You’re about to lose. He goes, yeah, that wing guard can’t…only the wing guard can flank jump. He says, and the enforcer moves like a wing guard when it’s flanking. They go…he goes, you don’t know how to play this game. This is a gentleman’s game. He says, I’ll show you a gentleman. The guy goes, really? He goes, really; that’s how we do it. If you wanted…he goes, you either lose this game or we debate it. He goes, well, how do you debate it? He goes, a hum-off. We have a humming…we have these humming things and we try to hum…he goes, it’s basically a way of doing a sympathetic vibration. Whoever’s sympathetic vibration makes this vibrating thing vibrate is the most sympathetic.

 

But they’re not trying to do a positive, calming, sympathetic vibration, so they go back and forth trying to…basically a hum-off, but a irritable hum-off. Then everybody’s covering their ears, 'cause they say, this is not helpful. But, you know, they won't let it go. So, they go back and forth humming in a grouchy manner, but at their own tones. Everybody’s just kinda watching, wondering who’s gonna win this hum-off. Hummina, hummina, hummina. Back and forth, back and forth. Finally Grogu breaks it up, 'cause they say, can’t you do anything? They say, no, you gotta let it roll. Grogu says, no, no, no, quit it. I’m the one…the Force is a sympathetic vibration we’re trying to be in…tuned to. He says that between the lines, you know, by just making a cute sound. Bo-Katan says, you taught your apprentice well.

 

It’s Mando. He goes, oh, I didn’t teach him that. He didn’t learn it from me. We see Grogu nod at Bo-Katan, and then the ship is off, moving again. We also see the armorer’s ship come out of the atmosphere, and we see the fleet. Says, yeah, I got some passengers aboard. Come in. We got some people…need some water and food and stuff. Okay, no problem. Let’s get ready for that. So, we get some cool shots in the ship, but then the ship scene…sees something in the distance with double binocs, and it’s straight out of a movie. They say, is that thing straight out of a movie? We don’t even have that kid aboard that the beings love…so, they see this big rock being. They say, is that the avalanche thing from Frozen? They say, a different timeline, man. They say, is that thunder…something?

 

They say, no, but whatever it is…they say, is this the thing from Beetlejuice? They say, Beetlejuice? They say, don’t say it a third time. But it takes out their ship, 'cause it does seem like a combination…oh, no, it’s a Ankylosaurus. That’s what I put in my notes. It’s a giant Ankylosaurus with the tail, and the tail takes out the ship. It looks like most of the Mandalorians fly away, but the ship is no more, which is kind of a bummer because…but I guess the ship served its purpose. Oh, no squabbling, yo. Oh, that was from earlier. Then they go to try…they go, everybody down. Let’s go underground. They go into a cave opening. Mandalorian checks on Grogu. He says, you okay? Yeah. They say, actually, we just gotta go further down, anyway. Believe it or not, we just go a little bit more underground here.

 

They go under, they go down one hallway to get away from the Ankylosaurus, and then they do a wipe, so we don’t know how long they were hiking for, but they come out in another grand room. Grogu says, [MUMBLING]. They say, what is that? Holy moly. It’s like, that’s the great forge, man. It used to be the heart of our civilization, and there’s a lot of…I don't know, it’s pretty towering, but that’s all that’s left of the great forge. Axe Woves is very introspective. No more forging, though. Paz says, you lived here? Say, yeah, we all did. The captain says, yeah, we had to go below the surface, though, but can’t go any lower. Then they hear something with jet packs flying towards them. Then somebody says, yeah, some tried to explore below, but it didn’t go so hot. Then there’s a sound. The Mandalorian looks up; says, jet packs?

 

Oh, more Mandos or what? But…nope. Bo-Katan says, those aren’t Mandalorians. Helmets on. Then it’s Nerf dance-off time, pool noodles and all. These are the people that…the troops that were waiting with…why did my mind just go blank? With Moff Gideon. They’re pinned down, and then Axe Woves says, I could get to the fleet for backups. They say, you’ll never make it. Then Paz says, I’ll cover you. There’s a hole in the ceiling. Go for it. This is Axe Woves’ big moment. He flies off, up through…up out of the underground. Paz Visala is really effective, then everybody gets effective, and they start using Mandalorian teamwork. Oh no, not yet. It’s still not going well for the Mandalorians right this second, but…oh, once they get in close, that’s when the Mandalorians are more skilled, where these…I don't know who the…these Gideon…these are cookies from the Gideon bakery, Gideon’s bakery.

 

So, there’s a lot of back and forth, throwing down, as they say, and…but you definitely see Bo-Katan, Paz Visala, and the Mandalorian, Din Djarin, be highly effective. Bo-Katan leads them. They’re chasing…all the people are running, and the Mandalorian says even to IG-12; you gotta keep up, bud. They go down, they go through some tunnels…they chase them down a hallway, and there’s…I think there’s even victory music or victory-style music, where you say, okay, this is gonna end on a high note here, because they’re really effectively chasing things down. The Mandalorian, he…Din Djarin uses his super Beskar to lead the charge, then. Then we end up in a base, 'cause all the Gideons take off, and they come into a Imperial-style base built into this canyon. Then Bo-Katan says, what is this place?

 

Then the door closes behind them. Then the door closes in front of them. A bunch of the Mandalorians are stuck in a room, like a air duct, and Din Djarin and just three other regular Mandalorians there…Grogu’s inside the airlock. So is Bo-Katan. Grogu doesn’t like it. They manage to kinda lasso Din Djarin, the Mandalorian, as far as we know now. Then, who lands but a fully-suited, fully-armored Moff Gideon, with a helmet and everything. His helmet has a built-in crown so you know that he considers himself a ruler. He says, I rule. Very Vader-esque. Takes his helmet off with one hand, by…his helmet comes right off. He says, thanks for getting everybody together, bud. This worked out great. You’re a talented people, but your time has passed. You’ve lost this dance-off, but Mandalore will live on in me.

 

He even has blinking lights, like…goes, thanks to these rich resources, next generation…oh, dark trooper suit forged from Beskar alloy. So, Beskar’s an alloy. Most impressive improvement; that I’m wearing one. I’m superior. You see? Every society has something to offer; cloners, Jedi, and even the Mandalorians. All come to a conclusion through me. I aggregated the best, and I’m gonna bring order to the galaxy. Then they say, why don’t we go and take out their fleet while we have the element of surprise? Interceptors, bombers, take off. Bo-Katan says, oh, no. Then they start getting in ships and getting them ready to launch. Yeah, the ships start taking off. Paz Visala’s like, oh no, this is…everybody is on there. Another purge of Mandalore. Mando’s totally…he says, take Man…Din Djarin to the debriefing room.

 

I need his briefs, so, debrief him. Bo-Katan says, I can’t believe you, man. What a J-E-R-K. He goes, oh, Bo-Katan, we gotta stop meeting like this, hardy-har-har. She says, I’ll make sure of it. He goes, skip the pleasantries. Goes, this is the part where you give me your Darksaber back to me, who un-rightly took it. She holds it up. He says, now surrender the Darksaber and tell them I’m in charge. She looks at Paz Visala and nods. He says, this is the way. She uses the Darksaber to open up the door, carves…I mean, let’s see. I think it’s at least a eight to twelve-inch hole. I mean, thickness…a hole big enough to climb through. They open the doors. There’s another dance-off while Bo-Katan’s cutting a hole in the door. Oh yeah, no, fourteen to eighteen inches, I’d say, thickness. Paz Visala says, I’ll cover things. Everybody go.

 

But everybody has to go one at a time through the hole. But Paz Visala has that…whatever you call it, a repeater or something. Even Grogu goes through the door, but there’s more and more of these…what are these called? Gideons? Then Bo-Katan says, why don’t you fly back? We’re not gonna leave you behind. He goes, no, this is the way…closes the door on her. Too many. You better go. She says, no. He says, this is the way. He doesn’t have very much of a problem. He really makes…he doesn’t make super quick work of all the dark troopers from Gideon’s bakery 'cause eventually his repeater overheats from use, and then he uses it as…he tosses it, then he makes moves. He is way more powerful than most of these run-of-the-mill Gideons.

 

But then in…does kinda slow-mo…I’d say non-poetic, balletic slow-mo. After Paz has taken out all the Gideons, these three…what are those things called again? Oh, ominous choral music playing, it says. Neon equipment…Paz pulls out his…whatever his thing that he used for humming. What were those things called? I forgot. It was already in the episode, but…Crimson…oh no, Crimson Guards and a G.I. Joe, but same concept. Unfortunately, they do say, Paz, why don’t you take a nap? In fact, why don’t you go to the Concordia not in the sky around this planet, but why don’t you go visit another Concordia? He says, okay, I guess. So, he goes to sleep, and that’s…is that the last image of the episode? Yeah. Then we see our art. First we see a panel with the neon city. The pavement is wet.

 

There’s steam and there’s someone walking, presumably KOB or whatever, THK-55, 51, or whatever. Then we see the probe or the…I don't know if that’s a probe droid, but I wouldn’t want to be probed by that droid at all, even verbally. Then we have a long hallway. I don't know what episode that’s…what part of the episode that’s from. Then we see the fleet coming in and High Magistrate Karga watching it, then the face-off of all the Mandalorians on both sides, then another face-off at sunset of all the Mandalorians set up from a different angle, a low angle. Then IG-11 meeting IG-12, then a really cute shot with cool lighting of Grogu very happily controlling IG-12, then the banquet. Luckily, I don’t see any sign of the foundlings. Then the land-sailer, the ice-sailer, then the Ankylosaurus. You know there was a movie called Ice Pirates?

 

I don't know if I’ll go on a tangent about it. Then we see the Gideons versus the Mandalorians in flight, and then another of them running down the hall after the Gideons, and then Mando facing off…surrounded where…with Moff Gideon, and then the episode comes to a close. But yeah, there was this movie…I guess this is…well, I’ll close on Ice Pirates. I think I asked…this was probably four or five years ago. It came up on Scriptnotes. I tweeted Craig Mazin to find out if he had seen it recently and if it was as bad as…like, I remember it being good, but I was also a kid. He said, no, it’s…I think he said, no, it’s pretty not…pretty much not good. Ice Pirates was like a Star…I don't remember…this is what I remember about it; I get it mixed up with Spaceballs, and I’m not trying to be funny, because this…they had similar leads. 

Bill Pullman was the lead in Spaceballs, but every time I think of Ice Pirates, I think it’s Bill Pullman, but it was actually a actor…I don't know, like The $100 Million Man.

 

Robert…? I can’t say his name. It’s not Ulrich, though. I guess there was…it was a Star Wars attempt. It was attempted space opera, not a parody. I just remember seeing it early. I do remember there was a kissing scene. That was a primary…I probably was a very, very young lad. That caught my attention. I don't really remember anything else about it other than that. Robert Ulrich, some sort of kissing scene, I get it mostly mixed up with Spaceballs, which was a Star Wars parody. ‘Cause then I say, was Daphne Z in that? No, that was Spaceballs. What about John…? No; Spaceballs. Okay. So, yeah. I don't know, maybe…I’ve got a long list of strange movies I haven’t watched, but I could do a Tale…I just did a Tale…mini Tale of the Tape of Space…or Ice Pirates, 'cause that’s all I remember, and that’s all you need to know. I’m glad you’re in bed and I hope you’re getting comfortable. If not, there’s plenty more episodes. Goodnight, everybody. 

 

[END OF RECORDING]

(Transcribed by Leah Hervoly)

Notable Language:

• Grogushish Being
• Clape
• Non-Poetic Balletic Slo Mo

Notable Culture:

• Billy Crystal
• Effron on Ephron, a podcast
• Bill Pullman

Notable Talking Points:

• Ephron-Con
• This Shadow Council really needs a sharing hammer
• Hooba Wooba, that’s the Great Forge!