1437 – Doggy Bag Boundary | A Succesion of Restful Developments Ep 4

Episode 1437 – Doggy Bag Boundary | A Succesion of Restful Developments Ep 4

 

SCOOTER: Friends beyond the binary, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Bluths and Roys, Roys and Bluths, whether you're…how do you say that? I don't know. Whether…if you wa-wa-wonder what wams-something is or you're wondering what it is I’m talking about, you're in the right place. This is Sleep With Me. It’s a podcast that’s a bit confusing, a bit different. It is a sleep podcast that’s been around quite a little while. I don't know, can you…? I guess ‘quite a little while’ doesn't say…it’s been around a while. The reason it’s been around…I do have trouble saying words. But you say, it doesn't sound like you've been around a while. I’d say, fair enough.

 

You're actually correct; it does not…despite recording I don't even know what, 1,500 episodes or something, yeah, I’ve not mastered the art of speaking, but I have honestly been curious and tried to learn how to make a podcast that brings you sleepy joy and delight in a meandering, nonsensical, somewhat-boring way, like you were hanging out with a goofy friend that’s just there to keep you company, make you barely laugh, and comfort you or distract you in the deep, dark night. That’s really what the show is about. Some listeners would say these particular episodes are high-concept because they're listening at 4:20 p.m. or they're saying it’s…man, this is one high concept. But most listeners, this is just a concept so high in the stratosphere that it’s like those clouds that are wispy, almost formless. What do I mean?

 

Well, I think that metaphor was nearly formless because, yeah, this…these particular episodes…if you're new, I’ll explain to you the structure of the show coming up here. But yeah, later on we’ll be kinda doing a dreamy TV recap-style podcast, and it’s a bit different, but it’s also a podcast that you don't have to listen to but you could listen to. So, I’m glad you're here, whether you're new, whether you're a person that comes from time to time when you need the show or you're a regular listener, I’m always glad you're here. I really am working hard at…I love making the show. I really do. So, I think I had one more thing…oh, structure. So, coming up is support. That’s really only for the people that listen night after night whose lives are changed by the podcast. I mean, you could always support the show. It’s great.

 

Then…but if you're new, you're not in a position to do so, or you only listen once in a while, we're here. We're here to support you, too. Then after the support will be a long, meandering intro meant to ease you into bedtime, and then later on will be…we’ll have a succession of Restful Developments. Or, I guess that’s the series of episodes. But yeah, it’ll be a succession 'cause I think there’s usually three segments in the show. So, I’m glad you're here. I work really hard. I yearn and I strive. I really hope I can help you fall asleep. If this podcast does make your life better, particularly it makes your life better four, five, six nights a week, we really could use your help either through one of these sponsors or directly. So, this message is coming your way.

 

Intro: Hey, are you up all night tossing, turning, mind racing? Trouble getting to sleep? Trouble staying asleep? Well, welcome. This is Sleep With Me, the podcast that puts you to sleep. We do it with a bedtime story. Alls you need to do is get in bed, turn out the lights, and press Play. I’m gonna do the rest. What I’m going to attempt to do is create a safe place where you could set aside whatever’s keeping you awake, whether that’s thoughts on your mind, thoughts about the past, the present, the future, thoughts you're thinking about or thoughts that are just there making an appearance, it could be feelings related to those thoughts or feelings that have come up, feelings left over from the day, feelings about tomorrow, feelings you'd appreciate…you'd say, I appreciate this feeling…I’d love to make time for you, but not at bedtime.

 

It could be physical sensations, changes in time, temperature, routine, you could be going through something, getting over something, in the middle of something, maybe you're traveling or have guests, maybe you work a different schedule. Shout out to all those shifts, all the people…and I do believe this, and it’s…I believe it strongly, this…that when Dolly…and I’ve talked about this before; if Dolly Parton had unlimited time, she would rewrite that song for whatever shift you work. But when Dolly Parton sings Working 9 to 5, she’s singing it. In her heart she’s saying whatever shift you really work, because when Dolly Parton was singing that song, I think she was already successful, and maybe as a working artist she was working 9:00 to 5:00. But I think what she was really saying was…or maybe it was a pitch…maybe it was totally manufactured originally.

 

But once it went through her heart — and I’m not being snarky at all; I mean it — she said, I see you working the, whatever, 11:30…plus you got a half-hour break to…11:30 to 8:00. What a way to make a living. You get two fifteen-minute breaks but you get…or you get a paid lunch but you gotta work for your…that’s why you have to work the half hour. It just doesn't…you could hear it in her heart, too, just like…oh, and…what am I talking about? I went far afield. Oh, what other…? Yeah, so, I guess the reason I bring up anything that might be keeping you awake is very similar. It’s…comes from my heart or, whatever, deep within me, or you could say just out there in the ether, or…my experience in not sleeping is that it’s not great, right? For me, not being able to sleep is not great, and knowing that you're dealing with sleep issues, whatever it is that brought you here specifically, just like Dolly singing from the 9:00 to 5:00 perspective, was singing to everyone who works any kind of thing and says, oof.

 

Even somebody work…a working mom. I’m sure Dolly would have said, oh no, yeah, I was definitely singing it for the working moms of the world or the working parents of the world or people working just to raise children or whatever it is, you know? The students…I guess I could go on for…that’s why I do this job. But when I talk about sleep, I know what it’s like for me, I know what it’s like for a lot of listeners I’ve heard from, and I think I could relate to what it’s like for you, but here’s the thing; this is where the real magic of…and I do believe in a sense that I…I’m not assuming; I’m deducing that Dolly Parton probably feels the same way, or she knew…she already knows this, that somewhere out there listening to the show right now…this part Dolly doesn't know about, but she knows about the bigger point I’m gonna make, is that someone is listening right now that really does get where you're at, that really does understand whatever it is that brought you to the show and what it really feels like for you.

 

Maybe they've been through the same thing or something very similar or they just see you, they just can connect with you. They are, somewhere in the world right now, listening and wishing you well and hoping you get the sleep you need and you deserve. They're saying, oh, I’m rooting for you. I hope this podcast can help you like it helped me, or it can introduce you to something else that’ll help you, because they see you and they really understand and they feel for you. I feel for you, too. Maybe I can't connect as deeply as this other person, this other listener can, but the thing is, we're all connected here in a indirect sense in the deep, dark night, just like anybody that works is connected to Dolly Parton in a sense. But in a real sense…I mean, right? How come that song’s not called an anthem? Maybe I should listen to the…barely…what a way to make a living, something…all take and no giving. So, yeah, how come that song’s not an anthem for working?

 

You say…I guess maybe I should…yeah, I guess I do have a copy of a single of it. So, yeah, I should go and listen to the lyrics before I say, how come this isn't an anthem for our times? I mean, pour myself a cup of ambition. I guess maybe I should noodle on that later. You're right, brain. Was that my left brain or my right brain saying that? You're correct, brain. So, whatever it is that brought you here, there’s other people that are glad you're here. I’m glad you're here. As I said, you deserve a bedtime that doesn't have to…that you don't have to dread, that’s not full of rigmarole, that…if you're anything like me, when that sleep trouble hits, I start dreading…especially during the week or on the weekend, I’m like, well, what about Sunday night? How am I gonna get the sleep I need to face the week and to be available working and present in my life? That’s what I want.

 

I’d love to be a small part of that for you so that your life is better tomorrow, your life is more manageable, and eventually…and again, I do believe this is true; just like Dolly Parton would want you out in the world flourishing…and maybe that’s more powerful, right? Because she’s a bigger deal than me and she’s actually more…she’s got…I have a little bit different energy than Dolly Parton. Her energy is a bit more bright and joyous, and…but she wants you to be out there in the world flourishing. So do I. That means our world’s a better place when you're in the world flourishing, and we could use that. So, that’s why I make the show, and it is a bit…this show is a bit different, right? I send my voice across the deep, dark night. I use lulling, soothing, creaky, dulcet tones, pointless meanders, and superfluous tangents. So, I go off topic, I get mixed up, forget what I was talking about, I have filler words, then I go on multiple tangents or pointless meanders.

 

I don't think you could call a Dolly Parton tangent pointless, but you could call it superfluous. I mean, it would be…you could do that. I don't know if I would. I mean, you could say anything involving Dolly is super…maybe you could say it’s superfluid. That may not be correct, but you say, well, I still used ‘super’ and ‘fluous’. Okay, so, my voice is not traditionally soothing, this show is a bit disconnected, but it does have a nice flow to it for the people it works for. If you're new or you're questioning this show, like whatever it is that brought you here, and you say, what is going on here? That is a very common reaction. When most people get here, they're skeptical, they're doubtful, they're frustrated, they had a expectation of something a little bit more reasonable or straight…you say, a bedtime podcast? This must be…right? You fill in the blanks. You probably had some reasonable expectation. This show, it does defy expectations, I guess…inadvertently? Do I inadvertently defy expectations?

 

Listeners, let me know. I wouldn't say…I’d say with intention, not…inadvertently with intention, not intentionally, but my vocabulary is not…I know a lot of words; I just don't know the meanings to all of them. I guess I have…my vocabulary may be superfluous. So…oh, so if…when you get here, give the show two or three tries. That’s what probably over a million people have said over the years; it took two or three tries for me to get used to the show because at first I didn't like it or I was like, this is a sleep podcast? What is he going on about? When is this…when’s the sleepy stuff gonna start? I thought you were putting me to sleep. Then maybe the second time you say, oh, he’s serious about all this. He’s seriously goofy, but…oh, he’s like a harmless…he’s seriously harmless. I say, well, yeah, I’ve been told that before. So, just give the show a few tries, 'cause on the second or third try, a lot of those people realize they fell asleep.

 

Oh, wait a second, then I woke up, and I poured myself a cup of ambition and yawned or whatever and stretched, and then headed out the door. I would try to remember lyrics from the song, but…so, give it a few tries and see how it goes. You really have nothing to lose. I’m just here to help you out. If you already know this is not a good fit, the show is an acquired taste, or you decide the podcast isn't for you at any point, we have a website set up, sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou, or I think /nothanks will bring you there, and that has other sleep podcasts and sleepy stuff so you could find something that does work for you, because I want to help either way. If you're anything…if you're in the spot that I’ve been in the spot before, whether…even if you strongly dislike me, I still want to help you out because you still a good night's sleep. So, use that website 'cause it is…this podcast, yeah, it’s just an acquired taste. One part of it is that this is a podcast you don't really listen to, right?

 

It’s like kinda background noise or a TV on in the other room, a show streaming under your pillow, it’s like elevated background noise or hanging out with a friend that…you're like, hey, can you talk to me for a while? But I’m not gonna pay really close attention. If you’re friend’s…they say, oh, okay, no problem. Let me talk about…I mean, I could start…I could just keep talking and then I’ll figure out what I’m gonna talk about. So, just see how it goes. Or, wait…yeah. Oh, so it’s like a out-of-focus picture. Or, I think we’ve all had this experience before, whether it’s in a seminar or work thing or a conference or in person, intentional or inadvertently, or it’s just happened that someone’s kinda put us to sleep but that we’ve kind of been listening to. Or, they haven't put us to sleep but they've distracted us in a way that’s comforting. A lot of times I think about sports on the radio, particularly baseball, but other things…people would be like, what’s the score of the game?

 

I’m like, oh, I don't even know. I just was listening to it. I don't think I ever said that; I’m just listening to it for comfort, but that’s what I would have said if I meant…I don't know, I just like how it feels when it’s on there in the background. So, that does take some getting used to. Also, this is a sleep podcast that’s not here to put you to sleep. There’s no pressure to fall asleep with the show. There’s a reason the episodes are over an hour, and it’s because there’s people listening who can't sleep at all or who need a break during the day or have some sort of work where they just need a distraction, kinda like I talked about with the baseball. I’m here to keep them company and you company whether you're awake or asleep. I’m here to just hang out with you. So, you could listen when you need to and you could sleep, and you could figure out what works for you.

 

But I’m here to the very end whether you're listening or not, whether you're awake or asleep, 'cause my job is to keep you company and take your mind off of stuff versus putting you to sleep. I’m here to be your bore-friend, your bore-bae, your bore-sib, your neighbore, your bore-bie, your boreman, your Boris Borelaf, your chairman of the boreds, your best bore-friend f’eva, to just be here and keep you company and take your mind off of stuff so you could fall asleep. So, that’s a couple things. The only other thing I like to run through quickly for new people or if you're just getting used to the show is the structure of the show. We structure the show in a way to try to benefit the maximum amount of people we can. So, the show starts off with a greeting; friends beyond the binary, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, so you feel seen and welcomed in and you say, oh, okay, I might check that show out. It seems…it sounds okay. Then there’s support so that paying for the show is optional.

 

So, if you're new, you listen occasionally, you're not in a position to support the show, we’ve got you. The support is for people that prefer stuff without ads or for the people that benefit from the show on a regular basis. Then after the support is a show within a show which introduces what the podcast is. It’s the intro, and it goes on for about fifteen to twenty minutes long, me explaining what the podcast is. The structure of every intro is the same, but every intro is different, where I go off on different superfluous tangents every time so that there’s some level of variety to every episode. The episodes always have a similar flow but they're always new so whatever it is that’s keeping you awake feels respected and like, oh, okay, there’s something new. I can't quite point out…I don't know, it’s just what’s worked for me. Repetition…consistency works, but repetition doesn't. Reassurance works, but otherwise I’m like, oh, the bird…that owl’s gonna hoot again at 41 minutes.

 

I don't know, that’s just the way my sleeplessness works. So, that’s why every intro is new. But the reason every intro is fifteen to twenty minutes long is to ease you into bedtime, not to put you to sleep. Most people don't fall asleep during the intro. If you do, please consider supporting the show directly. If you don't like the intros, we have story-only versions of every episode on Sleep With Me+ and a podcast that’s listener, ad-supported that’s available everywhere called Bedtime Stories from Sleep With Me. So, just…but the intro…yeah, the reason the intro goes on and on and on is 'cause most people are listening while they're getting ready for bed, they're winding down, they're doing some sort of chill activity, or they're in bed getting comfortable, so that you have this buffer between being awake and…or asleep. You get eased into bedtime as a part of a wind down, and that’s what works for me personally and just what I’ve seen work from research, that having a wind-down routine and setting the tone to be eased into bedtime really works.

 

So, that’s the real purpose of the intro, and it’s where we all get to hang out. In this intro, probably at least once or twice here we're able to have collective gratitude for Dolly Parton’s greatness, and that’s always nice, or maybe it was three weeks ago. I don't know. I lose track of these things 'cause I’m just here right now in the moment with you, keeping you company. So, that’s the structure of the show. That’s why I make the show. I’m really glad you're here whether you're new or you're coming back or you're just stopping in for a visit. Again, if you're new or an occasional listener or you can't support the show, don't worry at all. But if this podcast does improve your life on a regular basis, you fall asleep fast, you listen to multiple episodes a night, please, please consider supporting the show or one of the sponsors for you and for all these other people that listen so that we can keep making your bedtime better. Here you go, here’s some ways you could do that. Thanks.

 

Alright everybody, welcome to our ongoing series. This is kinda inspired by the Newhart and the Bob New…the Newhart Show and the Bob Newhart Show. Oh, it was called Newhart, my brain just told me…series finale. Somehow the power of dreams has leaked out, and this is a…somewhat of a TV-recap podcast, somewhat of a dream wondering podcast. If it made any sense, you may be able to call it a fanfic, but I don't think so. It’s called a Restful…a Succession of Restful Developments, and it just has two characters talking about two different shows that are about family. I’m gonna turn it over to them.

 

Well, hello, Michael. Come on in and sit down. I just want to get right to things, if you're comfortable doing that. I’ve been looking over all the extensive notes we have, and I was just thinking, is it okay to review your week first and then kinda go…? ‘Cause, quite a week, and really, I’m proud of you and your family for letting me in and letting me see so much that’s going on. I was really touched this week. Really? Yeah. I mean, I could tell by your tone that you're wondering about what I’m…that you're not totally comfortable with me being touched by your week. But so, you already probably know which parts impacted me. So, why don't you tell…run through your week, and then we’ll…? I have a couple ideas of how we could proceed with…I have all your dream logs here, and it seems to be that you're still having these recurring dreams about the Roy family, which is very much like a famous…well, I don't know anything about the family, you know, but there’s that one person…but yeah, it’s just so interesting.

 

You're so layered. Okay, I get it. I get where you're going with this. Okay, so, first thing that started my week off not great was seeing a car that my sister was hiding that was a rental car that needed to be returned. Then I was trying to sell the corporate jet for money. She was not happy about me…we're just having…we're not seeing each other, and no car, no jet. I’m trying to move things forward with my father’s business, and my sister was…well, I don't know, I’m not comfortable with you…the way you're distributing trees and bushes and things on this development. I was very…you could say snarky with her, and calling her materialistic. It does feel like…I realize I’m here to kinda grow, so this was not a growth moment. So, whatever, but she’s my sister. We go back and forth. Then Gob showed up, and it sounded like he needed my help in a real way. But at first I thought he wanted some spare change or something. He said what he needed was freedom. I said, what do you mean?

 

It was like a dream because he’s dating Marta, who’s a TV…a soap opera star, a Spanish-language soap opera star. The name of the show she’s on was very…that maybe made you think of the theme from my week. Now, I had never met Marta before, and someone that would date Gob…I feel like I couldn't understand that. So, I guess I had…was holding a lot of assumptions about her. But she was up for an award show…award, kinda like an Emmy, and then he was…I think he was making jokes about Tom Hanks — I said, wait a second, buddy — and Rita Wilson. Yeah, I know from the interviews…at least she let me see everything my family wrote. I mean, some really insightful things that touched me. But, oh, they call them…Dezzy is the award, and she was nominated. I was like, I can't believe you have a woman that believes in you. I was judging Gob and a little bit, I guess, competitive with him, 'cause I said, well, at least you have someone that really appreciates you. Family is the most important thing.

 

But then, of course, mom shows up. We tried to hide from her. Then Gob wanted something, so he want…then he tells me he did want to borrow money. So then he told mom where I was. She wanted tickets. She also wants to attend the awards. She’s competing with another Lucille who also is a Liza Minnelli impersonator. It’s always interesting. She never…I guess…I don't think it’s Liza Minnelli, but it could be. My mom is very competitive with her. Buster’s there; he needs me to tie his tie. I’m trying to say, Buster, maybe you should spend less time with mom. I guess, yeah, I’m getting involved in everybody’s relationships. Maybe you should be dating someone, Buster. Then mom’s like, when have you gone on a date with anybody? Then I was successful at selling the jet, but I also got a kind of vehicle that Lindsay could use or anybody at the family could use from…that was…with the stairs to the jet, though nobody really wants to use it. Then there was someone named Johnny. Who’s Johnny?

 

Not #5 Johnny, but Johnny. He was also protective of the bushes. He was a lover of bushes, so he was…had an exception to our family’s…relocating bushes. Then my sister’s like, okay, well, I’ll go talk to him. But I think she was more doing it to show me that she was not gonna take my side. Then I saw Gob’s interview. It was supposed to be Marta’s interview with Gob as a member of the family. She was even talking about families forever. Then Gob stood up and said, I have an announcement; I’m gonna go visit my father. We're gonna go to one of those rooms…those get-out-of-those-rooms together, and I’m gonna get outta that room. Gob was trying to hide a key, like use a hide-a-key to…hide a hide-a-key in the room so he didn't actually have to deduce any of the puzzles to get out of the room.

 

So, Gob and my father went to this get-out-of-the-room thing, though Gob was also…yeah, I mean, I’m sure this was one of the things that touched you; Gob was hoping him and my father would work through the puzzles together, but my father brought his friends from the dormitory he’s living in, and he was teaching them…okay, the first thing you want to do is take a look…pause and look around the room. Then you want to talk about what you're see…look for anything…and Gob’s like, how come…? You always told me these were individual…you never wanted to do this with me. Also, Gob hid the key and forgot…hid the hide-a-key and forgot where he hid the hide-a-key. Then Lindsay goes and meets with Johnny, the lover of bushes, and says, I’ll help you. Then Maeby and George Michael are going back and forth. Maeby wants to rebel against her mom. George Michael wants to support Maeby. Then Gob is also not polite to my father’s friends.

 

He’s doing magic for them, but that he’s also making humorous commentary about them while they're trying to solve the puzzles of the puzzle room. Then Marta shows up at my house, and Gob had told her I was gonna take her to the awards, and I was struck by how attracted I was to Marta. So, then we took the…I forgot that Lindsay had used the stair car to go to one of the higher bushes to meet with Johnny the bush…lover of bushes. So, she’s trying to talk him out of that, because we need to relocate the bushes in order to make more money, which she wants. Okay, so then there was the awards thing, right? So, I’m at the award ceremony with Marta, and then my mother and my brother are…Buster is with my mother at the award ceremony. So is Lucille Austero, who’s the Liza Minnelli impersonator. Buster also stopped wearing his glasses 'cause my mom was saying he wasn't gonna get any dates. So, he has a mix up where the Liza Minnelli impersonator, Lucille, thinks Buster wants to date her.

 

She says, okay, he’s a very attractive young man. So, that’s happening, and I guess that plays out through the rest of the week, where then he’s…then he’s saying that he’s attracted to her and he’s gonna date her, and that’s gonna give her independence from mom. Mom’s like, he doesn't even know who she is. He says, well, I’m just excited to see this play out. It kinda…yeah. So, meanwhile, I realized how much family is important to Marta. Marta does not win the award, and she needs comforting. I realize that…I said, man, I’m feeling…I have the feels for Marta. This might solve everything. This is gonna be my new HP, you know? Holy cow. Marta, take me away. You love family; I love family. Now Gob is back at the get-out-of-the-room, but it’s one where you stay overnight, and he decides he doesn't want to sleep there. So, he keeps telling my father, no, I’d rather go home. I want to sleep in my own bed. My father says, it’ll cancel the whole puzzle. He goes, well, I’ll sneak out.

 

I hid a key, anyway. I just can't find it. Now, Lindsay is trying to talk this guy out of the tree, and then she realizes, man, this used to be exciting when I would do rebellious stuff like this. So she’s like, I might stay in this tree for a little while. Or, bush; it’s a tall bush, not actually a tree. My mom says that Buster thinks he’s Steve McQueen because of everything. Oh yeah, he talks about how liberating falling for someone is. I’m like, huh, huh. Wait a second, you're just gonna jump right in and be liberated? So, it reminds me…then Gob says, hey, can you come pick me up? I can't find my…I can't find the hide-a-key I hid. So, I go over to meet him. But he told me to take the stair car, but I didn't take the stair car 'cause I didn't know if…I said, well, maybe I want to talk to him about Marta. But he doesn't understand. He just wants to leave. But then someone from the staff from the hide-a…get out of the hide-a-room say, hey, get back in here.

 

Then my father and Gob kinda…I think they shared a moment, but it’s tough to tell with both of them. He says, can't you help me solve a puzzle, dad? He says, I don't know if you're…but, I don't know, son. Are you puzzle material? Then Lindsay goes…she’s like, I don't like protecting bushes. I’d rather sleep in my own bed. These aren't even their own beds; they're the beds in the show house, anyway. Then Johnny the guy that loves…he goes by Johnny Bark. He’s also caught up in that. He says, Lindsay, I think we have something together. She goes, no, we don't. Meanwhile, while he’s out of the bushes…he’s out of the bushes 'cause he was waiting for Lindsay to wake up. They relocate the bushes. Then Gob and my father actually work on a puzzle…solving a puzzle together. So, Gob thinks, this is it. I’m finally connecting with my father and getting what I want.

 

But actually, at that point, he gets voted out of the team 'cause everybody else that was from my father’s dorm, they vote Gob out, which I didn't realize you could do in this kind of game, but I guess 'cause it’s a overnight game…so, Gob’s chance…and his father’s…my father says, sorry, Gob, you've been voted out. Nothing I can do about it. So, then Marta comes over, or maybe I went over to Marta’s house? Yeah, I went to Marta’s house to ask her out and say, hey, would you date me instead of Gob? So, we're talking and we're talking about how in sync we are, and their phone rings, and of course it’s Gob. He’s very needy because he just got…oh, I just got voted out by everybody. So she’s like, I gotta go comfort Gob. Then Buster and Lucille Austero get together. It’s also…stuff with Buster is also interesting 'cause he says, you have the same first name as my mother, but you look like Liza Minnelli. My mother does not. So then Gob’s like, hey, I’m gonna work things out with Marta.

 

I say, great. He says, man, if I would have got out of that escape room last night, we would have broken up. Just strange luck, huh? I say, yeah, that’s great. Then Marta even says to Gob, we're a family now. I don't think Gob is happy about that, but, whatever, it’s just my…I don't know. Yeah, so, I went…yeah, you were touched by the fact that Gob tried to connect with my father and I tried to connect with Gob’s girlfriend, or I was vulnerable with her, huh? Then, yeah, we thought about what could happen next with our thing. So, yeah, that was what my week was like. Okay, that’s very good. That’s very, very good. Now, I was thinking, if this is okay, I wanted to kinda run through some symbols from your dreams before we get too deep into the…or we could talk about the themes of your dream. But how about we talk about just some of the symbols first and what myself and my assistant came up with and then run through? Is that okay? Yeah, sure. Okay, do you want to start…?

 

We kinda started…we tried to get some new ones that were really different, and then we could go to more grounded just to see…there’s a lot of fertile stuff here, and it reminds me of the musical, the song Lifeboats. That was the first thing that…the Kendall in your dream was talking about lifeboats, and I guess in an interesting way thinking it’s a powerful metaphor is also very telling, right, that Kendall thinks that he’s just not good at corporate leading metaphors. I mean, who is? But the idea of thousands or hundreds of lifeboats or even tens of lifeboats…I really love that song from the musical, Heathers. Actually, I do, too. Well, that’s great. So, there was a lot of water from Aquarius, so the multiplicity also connects it to Saturn. So, Aquarius and Saturn…so, water, systems, collectives, contingency, and then Saturn is like a house of cards tumbling down. Responsibility, time…and for you, this idea astrologically…what if you were Saturn and you're over-activated?

 

Then you're also getting this Aquarius energy where there’s an overproduction of water. Does that hold anything…? That would not be good for anybody, is what I guess the dream is saying. I don't know. Okay, then how about this one? This is a little bit related to Buster and your mom, too. But I think…like, thinking about your sibling dynamics and the mirrors your siblings are holding up for you, especially considering the stuff with Gob, what if the boats were symbolic of a return to a time before you were in this world but you were not in this world with…? You were spending a period of nine months with your mother. You have that, you have the water, so…but then that this…there’s an individuation, and maybe the number represents some sort of calc…non-comfortable calculation around that? Like, you can't choose which way to regress. Even with commitment, you're trying to take over Gob’s commitment. You can't choose one direction.

 

You do want to exist, clearly, but you don't want to go back and regress, but you do because there’s thousands of ways to do it. Now, if we look at…I do work with an artificial-based intelligence, and they like to say, okay, so what if you're an NPC or this is some sort of simulation? Those are backups or file saves or re-saves, redundant continuations, respawn points, and…but suddenly you're waking within that and saying, I’m not sure about the timeline of this situation or this game. Am I an NPC that’s gained consciousness? What is this game I’m in? Or maybe you want to split up and be every NPC. But it comes down to the fact that you have to choose your identity and a singular existence. Okay, yeah, and maybe we’ll do some more grounded ones. But, okay, the five-star or luxury hotel room…your dream, your sister meets her ex there, and while they don't have any…there’s a definite energy to that, while it’s not acted upon. This could be related to the ascendants of Leo. So, there’s a Leo energy.

 

Visibility performance, status, but you're being admired but you're not actually grounded. It could also be very similar to this stuff…this nine-month stuff with your mother and Buster, in a sense, that there’s this…wanting to return to the lifeboat but also this idealized maternal approval you're seeking, and maybe you're seeking out some sort of shortcut to comforting and nurturing, but you don't want any obligation or true intimacy. I guess maybe that plays out with your choices with your brothers’…with Marta. Then there’s also the idea…now, what if you were being transported to another world, right, and you think you're…so, your dream is representing or bringing you to awareness that the hotel room is only an illusion and you're on a journey in a flying saucer, for example, and you're…the luxury of the hotel is a distraction from that. But we also…and maybe you don't even know; are you going somewhere or are you being returned somewhere?

 

I’m sorry, are you saying that there’s a chance that my dream is trying to alert me that I’m in something like a simulation? I mean, I could…or that I might be a NPC? No, no, you're mixing all the dreams…the interpretations together. But I could be an NPC on a flying saucer? No, those are two different things. I mean, you could be, but…I mean, yeah, I guess you could be. Okay, well, this will cover the dog bags. I thought that was very interesting not just…I mean, for me. Now, my assistant might have a different take. These are more out-there ideas, but…it was the whole Tom-and-Greg relationship and how Tom treats Greg. But also I think it was a positive that in the dream Greg is kind of being improvisational and trying to do his best, though also a little bit detached from social norms, or maybe that he should have been doing it with a little bit more caution. But yeah, so, what if it’s related to unlucky Virgo that you're…and a need to clean? Like, you're cleaning but you're unlucky?

 

Over maintenance…okay, that doesn't…okay, yeah, you're right; it doesn't…what if it’s some sort of…? The bag represents repression, but what goes in the bag represents you overexerting your boundaries this week, over-managing your family, a little aggression via snark, but your desire to keep that contained. Like, you're having trouble managing your strong feelings towards your siblings, and maybe the bag is symbolic of…I don't know, why would you put food in that bag? Okay, okay. Alright, then there’s the part of the dreams this week with Stewy and Kendall and having expresso and Coca-Cola, right? So, what if that’s like a Aries and Mars thing, in a surging? Mars is unintegrated. Actions replace direction. I think that…we could say that in the dream with Kendall…and speed without aim. Okay, but it was kinda necessary, don't you think? Yeah, it could be, it could be. What about an artificial attraction with…? This is with the espresso and the Coca-Cola drinking.

 

Maybe…this is a stretch, but what if Freud would say that’s a little bit of displacement of your desires using…drinking a lot of espresso, and that your ambition in a artificial way is replacing true intimacy? I don't know, do you feel like that’s connected to stuff with your brothers and Marta? Listen, Mart…I get what you're saying, but it wasn't like I sought Marta out. Marta arrived and then I noticed Marta, then I listened to Marta and her values. So, I don't know. Okay, what if we're all in some sort of, again, computer cybernetic thing, and our chip sets have been overclocked? So, they're running at a faster speed than recommended, and the dream is actually a thermal warning that, hey, we’ve gotta slow things down. I don't know, I don't know. I mean, what do we do? Can we shut down the computer and reboot it? I’m not sure, Michael. Maybe you need to think about that. Okay, I also thought about your Roman…in the office, self-soothing.

 

That could be Scorpio, 'cause it was a non-private private thing of saying, hey, I’m gonna talk calmly to myself like I’m alone in a private space where I’m self-soothing audibly, maybe doing some gentle holding your hand against your chest. Normally very good self-regulating behavior, but he’s supposed to be working, and he just started his work day. Technically I say it’s not…it’d be one thing if he alerted people to say, hey, I’m gonna take some time, quiet time. There was just something about that off, right, to say that there’s not…the sense of power and responsibility with Roman is a bit too much or something? I don't know. I don't know. Or Freud; what if this is Narcissus interrupted? Okay, what do you mean? Well, almost like Roman’s like, hey, I gotta calm myself. It’s been a big day even though the day is just starting.

 

Not that…we're not here to judge any of that because…but because it’s a dream, we need a good look at it in a more critical eye to say, well, is that breaking a norm also to say, okay, no, it’s 9:05. I’m gonna take a break now, but I’m not even gonna ask anybody about the break or tell anybody I’m taking the break. Don't you think at some point someone’s gonna be critical of that? Okay. Okay, what about if it’s monastic dream theory? Okay, I have no idea what that even is. Okay, what if in…if it’s…Roman’s saying, hey, I need some soothing here but my mind is telling me I’m not…that I need to focus on work? Like an internal schism? Okay, but…I mean, I’m just thinking about your week, you know? Okay, what else do you have? Okay, I was thinking about the closure versus rekindling thing with Kendall and Rava, and that could be the…one of our hard or softshell friends that kinda puts dreams in the past and the present.

 

What if you're loving someone in a different season or a different emotional year and the dream is trying to make you aware of that? Okay, a little too close to home for my opinion. Okay. Okay, what if a out-there interpretation of Freudian…that you're trying to undo loss instead of having…letting it play out in a natural, organic way. Like, you're…Kendall’s trying to stop his loss and change, almost. He’s almost viewing the last connection as protest. Or it could be temporal…what if there’s asynchronous timelines, and that’s just an echo from your past relationships? It could be that. Do you feel like you're in some sort of asynchronous timeline? I don't know. Okay, so, do you want to talk about…? I got a little mixed up there, but I was thinking we could go into more symbols or we could talk about…who in your dreams do you identify with the most? What do you mean? I mean, I know what you mean, but what do you mean?

 

Well, for example, there’s Kendall, of course, and I think we’ve kind of touched on that, Kendall’s big moment, and then he calls Rava for reassurance and direction and is oblivious to her and her needs and her…the fact she’s parenting. But Kendall is having needs, too, maybe parallel to the kids. Then the big meeting and everything happening behind the scenes and all those expectations, and then the meeting kinda being a little bit confusing, then Kendall and Stewy, and Kendall being vulnerable there and saying, Stewy, can you help me, Stewy? He kinda pitches it, in a way. Do you ever feel like that…Kendall in that situation? I mean, I dream…I did identify…yes, I feel what you're saying, but I would also dream of having Stewy, even if Stewy as with…later in the dream with Greg was not being my friend or totally my friend taking things off my hands or swooping in. I could really use a Stewy right now. I mean, he does very…sound very charming in your dreams and…yeah.

 

Then there’s Roman in your dream, and Roman just doesn't seem very serious, but it’s hard to tell. It’s just hard to…I couldn't quite understand that part of your…I mean, I could understand it, but…okay, what else? Okay, so then we have Shiv versus Marcia, Marcia holding her ground, and then Shiv’s ex, and kind of seeing flirtatious behaviour, but it wasn't acted upon, and then Shiv trying to find out anything she could about Marcia to kinda reestablish her power position, in a sense, and then maybe realizing, one, Marcia has boundaries, seemingly healthy boundaries, maybe even boundaries that were trying to be protective of Shiv but also saying this is not accept…like, I know what’s happening. I’m aware. So, maybe that’s something to think about over the coming weeks, is how…who is your Marcia? You're searching for a Stewy. Maybe you need to be searching for a Marcia. Okay, can we get to Greg? We're not gonna talk about Connor, are we?

 

I don't think we need to tonight, but…yeah, Greg or Tom first. I mean, we covered it a bit; Tom has two big moments where he’s about to go into meetings or in a meeting. He constantly is…he…I think really understanding Tom’s worldview is expressed…almost the way he treats Greg is the way he expects to be treated, and it’s maybe how he views the business world and even how you get ahead. But he constantly is being pulled in another direction by Shiv, and he doesn't have…he doesn't have the same boundaries as Marcia where it’s like, no, that is a complete sentence. I’ve got big meetings here. Also, he continues the behavior of treating Greg, and then Greg, he’s…he is in one of those Kendall boats because he needs Tom to help him get into the building. That doesn't work. He’s dealing with the gatekeepers; always symbolic in dreams.

 

Then he’s looking for sustenance, putting sustenance in a doggy bag, and even in the dream he’s a very funny part of your dreams, saying these aren't…these bags aren't pre…I thought that was very funny how you journaled about that. So, any of that…do you want to talk about that or do you want me to just keep talking? Is neither choice…is that a complete sentence, neither? I mean, neither is an answer, but we still have some time together. So, okay, let’s look at a couple things with the hotel rooms. What if it’s a borrowed identity? It’s a self you're inhabiting temporarily, very high end in this case, curated, but it’s not yours. You're living something that’s…you're living an existence of someone else’s design for you. It could also be an ethics…a suspended ethics zone. My assistant points out there’s no chores at hotels. There’s…you don't have to associate with your neighbors. So, it’s a bit of a vacuum. Maybe this is related to your privilege. Maybe you're thinking you're becoming careless.

 

What if you're insulated? Or it could be time without memory. What if you're in chronological limbo? Rooms, they don't change, so every day can feel the same. It’s tough; if the blinds are closed, it’s tough to tell the time of day. Hotel rooms are not normally seasonal. So, are you putting some kind of transition or decision off? You're postponing a big choice with your family. Nothing’s happening. It could also be a narcissistic paradox. I don't know what that means, but let me look at my assistant’s notes. Rooms have mirrors, shiny surfaces, especially five-star rooms, flattering lighting, palettes, but there’s nothing solid or actual or real. Like, what if something about Marta, maybe, was some sort of external…or whatever’s happening with Buster is a mirror? External validation replacing inner grounding, or maybe that’s how Gob behaved this week, at first one-upping Marta. Or could it be admiration without intimacy?

 

Were you admiring Marta’s dedication to family and to your family member despite his imperfection? Let me see what other things. There’s a lot of other ones; in-between, false sanctuary…now the doggy bags. What if it’s related to your emotional hygiene? You're trying to contain anything messy in your dreams, but strangely, then it’s related to sustenance, too. Does that relate to your emotional state at all? Pretty much…it does pretty much sum it up, yeah. I mean, yes it does. What about proximity without context? A lot of boundary stuff my assistant is coming up with. ‘Cause a bag allows you to get extremely close to something without direct contact and then contain it. So, it’s a polite, clean way of dealing with a boundary. But is it more related to duty…? I mean, whoops, that was an accident. I’m not kidding, Michael. I was saying D-U-T-Y, but I said duty. But is it related to duty, not duty? Okay, that’s really…I mean, I don't believe it’s accidental, and…it wasn’t accidental, Michael.

 

Or maybe it was a Freudian slip. I’ve never hoped someone would have a Freudian slip more than right now. Well, I’m just saying what if…? Now I forgot what I was gonna say. Oh, what if your sense of duty…to the duty, symbolically…it does seem like there’s some confusion there 'cause of the food, but that…versus true intimacy. Like, you're doing what you're supposed to do, or Marta believes in families…are you…? I thought you were just supposed to discuss the dreams. Okay, other things to think about; control versus nature. Maybe the bag is doing something behind the scenes or invisibly. A temporary solution to a permanent situation, displaced feelings, and then everything with Coca-Cola and espresso, that could be Promethean or mythic, compressed self-hood, it could be related to performance issues, not…you know what I mean, performance issues. You're feeling performative. Could be a false confidence loop. That does sound like…Kendall symbolizes that in some way.

 

Managing things that are outside of your control…there’s also with Roman some sort of visibility paradox, testing of boundaries, self-reliance in a system that withholds true intimacy. I mean, I don't know, does that ring true to you, Michael? Does that have anything to do with a sense of duty or should…are you gonna come up with…? Please don't come up with any puns related to that. I did almost come up with one because I forgot…Roman and…I forgot that word. So then I said, oh, wait, those kind of rhyme. Okay, private performance pressure…but it didn't seem like he’s feeling…he was reacting to performance pressure. Autonomy without…closed circuit autonomy. What if you don't want…you're afraid of being human and having weakness? So, that’s everything I have this…or, Michael, did you…are you…? Oh, you're sleeping and resting.

 

Well, Michael, I hope you dream of your…that your Marta dreams lead you to someone at least in these dreams like Marcia, who’s…we're not sure why she’s gatekeeping, but she is keeping a gate, and it does seem like at least part of it is her own healthy boundaries, her own preferences and needs, and maybe a very nurturing, mothering instinct. We can't be sure about that, but at least it seems lately that you're looking for some of those things, and maybe your family members are either looking or realizing it. So, I do hope you dream deeply tonight, Michael and everyone else, and rest well, and remember what Emma Otter always says; all will be well. Goodnight.

 

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A Succession of Restful Developments

 

Dolly Parton

https://www.grammy.com/news/dolly-parton-legacy-feminism-advocacy-philanthropy-run-the-world-video

https://www.widrfm.org/single-post/the-influence-of-dolly-parton

https://www.vice.com/en/article/what-is-the-dolly-parton-effect-and-does-it-actually-work/

 

NPC

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/wait-does-npc-mean-130600924.html

https://www.hypergogo.com/blogs/lifestyle/teens-npc?srsltid=AfmBOorA0kGaSI3tqsZd6ak3-i8DoCEfi4Xxe9hCae4zLZdlW8Vv3v8t

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/23/17991274/npc-meme-4chan-press-coverage-viral

 

Arrested Development S1 E4 – “Key Decisions”

https://deconstructingad.com/2018/12/27/season-1-episode-4-key-decisions/

https://www.alternateending.com/blog/arrested-development-season-1-episode-4-key-decisions

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/ArrestedDevelopmentS1E4KeyDecisions

 

Succession S1 E3 – “Lifeboats”

https://www.avclub.com/its-kendalls-first-day-on-the-job-in-an-on-the-nose-suc-1836424801

https://decider.com/2018/08/16/succession-episode-3-recap-comedy-of-errors/

https://fromthetalesofwarsandringsandeverythinginbetween.wordpress.com/2021/12/22/succession-s1-3-review/

 

DOWN TO BUSINESS

Bluths and Roys

Wa-Wa-Wondering about Wambsgans

I’ve not yet mastered the art of speaking

A concept that’s so high in the stratosphere that it’s wispy

Dreamy TV Recap style

 

PLUGS

Sleep With Me Plus; SleepPhones; Story Only Feed; Emily Tat Artwork; Crisis Textline

 

SPONSORS

Helix Sleep; Zocdoc; Coyuchi

 

INTRO

Thoughts you’re thinking about

Feelings you’d like to make time for, just not at bed time

Shout out to all those shifts

If Dolly Parton had unlimited time, she’d write a song for every shift

In her heart, she’s singing to every shift

I just went far afield there

Out there in the ether…

Not being able to sleep is not great

Singing from the 9 to 5 Perspective

Someone else listening right now really does get how you feel

They’re wishing you well

We’re all indirectly connected in the deep dark night

How come “9 to 5” isn’t considered an anthem?

An anthem for working

Maybe I should noodle on that later, brain

Dolly’s energy is a bit more bright and joyous than mine

But we want the same thing for you

We want you flourishing

A Dolly Parton tangent is never pointless

Super and Fluous

It’s normal to be skeptical or doubtful

Do I inadvertently defy expectations?

Inadvertently with intention

I know a lot of words, I just don’t know their meanings

Oh, he’s seriously goofy

sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou

This podcast is an acquired taste

I’ll be here whether you’re listening or not

I’m here to be your borefriend

Explaining the show structure

Consistency works but repetition doesn’t

I’ll be waiting for that owl hoot to repeat if I know it will

Collective Gratitude for Dolly Parton’s Greatness

I’m really glad you’re here 

 

STORY

Welcome to our ongoing series

Inspired by Newhart / Bob Newhart Show

Part TV recap / part dream wandering

Talking about two different shows about family

I’ll turn it over to them

Welcome, Michael, have a seat

You had quite the week, let’s start there

You’re so layered, Michael

I saw a car that my sister was hiding

I was trying to sell the jet for money

My sister and I are no seeing eye to eye

I was pretty snarky with her and called her materialistic

Gob shows up and he needs freedom

He’s dating Marta, a soap opera star

She was up for an awards show

Gob was making jokes about Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson

She’s nominated for a Desi

At least he has someone that really appreciates him

Mom shows up, and we try to hide from her

Gob needs money

Lucille is competing with another Lucille

Lucille 2 is a Liza Minelli impersonator

Buster needs me to tie his tie

I’m getting involved in all their relationships

I successfully sold the jet

I got a vehicle for the family to use

The stair car to the jet

Johnny is a lover of bushes

Lindsay goes to negotiate with Johnny

I see Gob in an interview with Marta

Gob announces that he’ll take his father to an escape room and try to escape from it himself

My dad brought his friends from the dorm he’s living in

Gob forgot where he hid the key

Lindsay goes to meet with Johnny

Maeby wants to rebel against her mom

Gob isn’t polite to Dad’s friends

Marta shows up at my house

I was struck by how attracted I was to Marta

I have to take her to the awards show

I’m at the awards ceremony

Buster and my mom are there, and so is Lucille Austero

Lucille tells Buster to not wear his glasses

Austero thinks Buster wants to date her

Dating Austero would give Buster independence from Mom

I realize how much family is important from Marta

I comfort Marta after she doesn’t win the award

Marta, take me away!

Gob doesn’t want to stay overnight with his father

Gob can’t find the key to escape

Lindsay wants to stay in the tall bush with Johnny to be rebellious

Buster feels liberated by falling for someone

Gob asks me to pick him up

The hide-a-room staff tries to keep Gob from escaping

Gob and Dad maybe share a moment

Lindsay wants to stay in her bed

Johnny Bark has feelings for Lindsay

They relocate the bushes while Johnny is out of the bush

Gob and George work on a puzzle together, which is bonding

But George’s team votes Gob out

Nothing George can do about it

I went to Marta’s house to ask her out

Gob calls Marta on the phone

He’s feeling needy after being voted out

Marta has to go to comfort Gob

Buster and Austero are together

Gob and Marta are going to work things out!

Not ideal for me

So that’s what my week was like

Let’s talk about some symbols from your dream

There’s a lot of fertile stuff here

Kendall is talking about life boats

Thousands of hundreds of life boats

A lot of water is connected to Aquarius and Saturn

Responsibility time, astrologically

An overproduction of water

That would not be good for anybody

What if the boats were symbolic of a return to a life before?

A time when you spent 9 months with your mother

You can’t choose which way to regress

What if this is a simulation

Redundant Continuations and Respawn Points

Am I an NPC that’s gained consciousness?

Choosing your identity and a singular existence

The luxury hotel room where our sister meets her ex

There’s a definite energy there

That could be connected to serious Leo energy

You’re being admired, but you’re not grounded

Seeking idealized maternal approval

Are you going somewhere or are you being returned somewhere?

You’re mixing all the interpretations together, Michael

You could be an NPC on a flying saucer, I guess though

Let’s cover the dog bags

The Tom and Greg relationship

Greg is trying to do his best, albeit detached from social norms

Unlucky Virgo

You need to clean, but you’re unlucky

Maybe the bag represents repression

What goes in the bag represents overexerting your boundaries this week

You’re having trouble managing your strong feelings towards your siblings

Stewy and Kendall having espresso and coca cola

Actions replaced direction; Speed without aim

Maybe it’s an artificial attraction?

A displacement of your desires

Michael clarifies that he didn’t seek Marta out

Maybe our chip sets have been overclocked and the dream is a thermal warning

Can we shut down the computer and reboot it?

Roman, in the office, self-soothing

A non-private private thing

Narcissus, Interrupted

Is Roman calming himself at the beginning of the day a warning?

Monastic Dream Theory

Loving someone in a different emotional year

Kendall is trying to stem loss

Do you feel like you’re in some sort of asynchronous timeline?

Who do you identify with most in your dreams?

There’s Kendall, of course

He’s oblivious to Rava’s needs

Expectations about the big meeting

The confusing meeting

Kendall is being vulnerable and needs Stewy’s help

Michael could really use a Stewy right now

Then there’s Roman

Roman doesn’t seem very serious

Shiv vs Marcia

Shiv and her ex

Flirtation not being acted upon

Shiv wants information on Marcia

Marcia has seemingly healthy boundaries

Who is your Marcia?

Maybe you need a Marcia, not a Stewy

Tom has 2 big moments where he’s about to go into big meetings

The way he treats Greg is the way that Tom expects to be treated

He’s constantly being pulled in a different direction by Shiv

And Greg is in one of those Kendall boats

He needs Tom to help him get into the building

Putting sustenance in a doggy bag

This part of the dream was very funny

Let’s look at the hotel rooms

Maybe it’s a borrowed identity

You’re living an existence that someone else designed for you

Suspended Ethics Zone

No chores, no neighbors. A moral vacuum

Chronological Limbo

Are you putting off a transition or decision?

Narcissistic Paradox – what does that mean?

Maybe what’s happening with Buster or Gob is a mirror to your behavior?

Maintaining emotional hygiene

My assistant is coming up with a lot of boundary stuff

Duty, not doody

That was a genuine Freudian slip, Michael, I promise

Is the doggy bag about duty?

Control vs Nature

A temporary solution to a permanent situation

A false confidence loop – that sounds like Kendall

Self-reliance in a system that withholds true intimacy

That’s everything I had this week

Oh, Michael, you’re sleeping and resting

Michael, I hope you have dreams that lead you to a Marta or Marcia with healthy boundaries

Maybe you and your family are all looking for the same thing

As Emma Otter says, all will be well

 

SUMMARY:

Episode: 1437

Title: Doggy Bag Boundary | A Succesion of Restful Developments Ep 4

Plugs: Sleep With Me Plus; SleepPhones; Story Only Feed; Emily Tat Artwork; Crisis Textline

Sponsors: Helix Sleep; Zocdoc; Coyuchi

Notable Language:

• Ether
• The 9 to 5 Perspective
• Anthem
• Super and Fluous
• Inadvertently with intention
• Collective Gratitude for Dolly Parton’s Greatness
• Lover of Bushes
• Responsibility time, astrologically
• Individuation
• Idealized Maternal Approval
• A displacement of your desires
• Narcissus, Interrupted
• Monastic Dream Theory
• Suspended Ethics Zone
• Chronological Limbo
• Duty / doody
• All Will Be Well

 

Notable Culture:

• • “9 to 5” – Dolly Parton
  • sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou

• Arrested Development

• Succession

• Newhart

• The Bob Newhart Show

• • Rupert Murdoch
  • Tom Hanks
  • Rita Wilson
  • “Love Boat” song

• Heathers, the Musical

• Narcissus
• Sigmund Freud
• Emmet Otter

 

Notable Talking Points:

• Thoughts you’re thinking about
• Feelings you’d like to make time for, just not at bed time
• Shout out to all those shifts
• If Dolly Parton had unlimited time, she’d write a song for every shift
• In her heart, she’s singing to every shift
• I just went far afield there
• Out there in the ether…
• Not being able to sleep is not great
• Singing from the 9 to 5 Perspective
• Someone else listening right now really does get how you feel
• They’re wishing you well
• We’re all indirectly connected in the deep dark night
• How come “9 to 5” isn’t considered an anthem?
• An anthem for working
• Maybe I should noodle on that later, brain
• Dolly’s energy is a bit more bright and joyous than mine
• But we want the same thing for you
• We want you flourishing
• A Dolly Parton tangent is never pointless
• Super and Fluous
• It’s normal to be skeptical or doubtful
• Do I inadvertently defy expectations?
• Inadvertently with intention
• I know a lot of words, I just don’t know their meanings
• Oh, he’s seriously goofy
• sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou
• This podcast is an acquired taste
• I’ll be here whether you’re listening or not
• I’m here to be your borefriend
• Explaining the show structure
• Consistency works but repetition doesn’t
• I’ll be waiting for that owl hoot to repeat if I know it will
• Collective Gratitude for Dolly Parton’s Greatness
• I’m really glad you’re here 
• Welcome to our ongoing series
• Inspired by Newhart / Bob Newhart Show
• Part TV recap / part dream wandering
• Talking about two different shows about family
• I’ll turn it over to them
• Welcome, Michael, have a seat
• You had quite the week, let’s start there
• You’re so layered, Michael
• I saw a car that my sister was hiding
• I was trying to sell the jet for money
• My sister and I are no seeing eye to eye
• I was pretty snarky with her and called her materialistic
• Gob shows up and he needs freedom
• He’s dating Marta, a soap opera star
• She was up for an awards show
• Gob was making jokes about Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson
• She’s nominated for a Desi
• At least he has someone that really appreciates him
• Mom shows up, and we try to hide from her
• Gob needs money
• Lucille is competing with another Lucille
• Lucille 2 is a Liza Minelli impersonator
• Buster needs me to tie his tie
• I’m getting involved in all their relationships
• I successfully sold the jet
• I got a vehicle for the family to use
• The stair car to the jet
• Johnny is a lover of bushes
• Lindsay goes to negotiate with Johnny
• I see Gob in an interview with Marta
• Gob announces that he’ll take his father to an escape room and try to escape from it himself
• My dad brought his friends from the dorm he’s living in
• Gob forgot where he hid the key
• Lindsay goes to meet with Johnny
• Maeby wants to rebel against her mom
• Gob isn’t polite to Dad’s friends
• Marta shows up at my house
• I was struck by how attracted I was to Marta
• I have to take her to the awards show
• I’m at the awards ceremony
• Buster and my mom are there, and so is Lucille Austero
• Lucille tells Buster to not wear his glasses
• Austero thinks Buster wants to date her
• Dating Austero would give Buster independence from Mom
• I realize how much family is important from Marta
• I comfort Marta after she doesn’t win the award
• Marta, take me away!
• Gob doesn’t want to stay overnight with his father
• Gob can’t find the key to escape
• Lindsay wants to stay in the tall bush with Johnny to be rebellious
• Buster feels liberated by falling for someone
• Gob asks me to pick him up
• The hide-a-room staff tries to keep Gob from escaping
• Gob and Dad maybe share a moment
• Lindsay wants to stay in her bed
• Johnny Bark has feelings for Lindsay
• They relocate the bushes while Johnny is out of the bush
• Gob and George work on a puzzle together, which is bonding
• But George’s team votes Gob out
• Nothing George can do about it
• I went to Marta’s house to ask her out
• Gob calls Marta on the phone
• He’s feeling needy after being voted out
• Marta has to go to comfort Gob
• Buster and Austero are together
• Gob and Marta are going to work things out!
• Not ideal for me
• So that’s what my week was like
• Let’s talk about some symbols from your dream
• There’s a lot of fertile stuff here
• Kendall is talking about life boats
• Thousands of hundreds of life boats
• A lot of water is connected to Aquarius and Saturn
• Responsibility time, astrologically
• An overproduction of water
• That would not be good for anybody
• What if the boats were symbolic of a return to a life before?
• A time when you spent 9 months with your mother
• You can’t choose which way to regress
• What if this is a simulation
• Redundant Continuations and Respawn Points
• Am I an NPC that’s gained consciousness?
• Choosing your identity and a singular existence
• The luxury hotel room where our sister meets her ex
• There’s a definite energy there
• That could be connected to serious Leo energy
• You’re being admired, but you’re not grounded
• Seeking idealized maternal approval
• Are you going somewhere or are you being returned somewhere?
• You’re mixing all the interpretations together, Michael
• You could be an NPC on a flying saucer, I guess though
• Let’s cover the dog bags
• The Tom and Greg relationship
• Greg is trying to do his best, albeit detached from social norms
• Unlucky Virgo
• You need to clean, but you’re unlucky
• Maybe the bag represents repression
• What goes in the bag represents overexerting your boundaries this week
• You’re having trouble managing your strong feelings towards your siblings
• Stewy and Kendall having espresso and coca cola
• Actions replaced direction; Speed without aim
• Maybe it’s an artificial attraction?
• A displacement of your desires
• Michael clarifies that he didn’t seek Marta out
• Maybe our chip sets have been overclocked and the dream is a thermal warning
• Can we shut down the computer and reboot it?
• Roman, in the office, self-soothing
• A non-private private thing
• Narcissus, Interrupted
• Is Roman calming himself at the beginning of the day a warning?
• Monastic Dream Theory
• Loving someone in a different emotional year
• Kendall is trying to stem loss
• Do you feel like you’re in some sort of asynchronous timeline?
• Who do you identify with most in your dreams?
• There’s Kendall, of course
• He’s oblivious to Rava’s needs
• Expectations about the big meeting
• The confusing meeting
• Kendall is being vulnerable and needs Stewy’s help
• Michael could really use a Stewy right now
• Then there’s Roman
• Roman doesn’t seem very serious
• Shiv vs Marcia
• Shiv and her ex
• Flirtation not being acted upon
• Shiv wants information on Marcia
• Marcia has seemingly healthy boundaries
• Who is your Marcia?
• Maybe you need a Marcia, not a Stewy
• Tom has 2 big moments where he’s about to go into big meetings
• The way he treats Greg is the way that Tom expects to be treated
• He’s constantly being pulled in a different direction by Shiv
• And Greg is in one of those Kendall boats
• He needs Tom to help him get into the building
• Putting sustenance in a doggy bag
• This part of the dream was very funny
• Let’s look at the hotel rooms
• Maybe it’s a borrowed identity
• You’re living an existence that someone else designed for you
• Suspended Ethics Zone
• No chores, no neighbors. A moral vacuum
• Chronological Limbo
• Are you putting off a transition or decision?
• Narcissistic Paradox – what does that mean?
• Maybe what’s happening with Buster or Gob is a mirror to your behavior?
• Maintaining emotional hygiene
• My assistant is coming up with a lot of boundary stuff
• Duty, not doody
• That was a genuine Freudian slip, Michael, I promise
• Is the doggy bag about duty?
• Control vs Nature
• A temporary solution to a permanent situation
• A false confidence loop – that sounds like Kendall
• Self-reliance in a system that withholds true intimacy
• That’s everything I had this week
• Oh, Michael, you’re sleeping and resting
• Michael, I hope you have dreams that lead you to a Marta or Marcia with healthy boundaries
• Maybe you and your family are all looking for the same thing
• As Emma Otter says, all will be well