1433 – Grapes of Khan Part 2 | Snore Trek
Our sensors indicate that we’ve got some fairly dated references incoming. Fortunately, the friendship of Kirk and Spock is enough to keep us warm and safe on a bed of jello jigglers that will wobble us off to dreamland.
Enjoy this very sleepy, meandering recap of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan!
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Episode 1433 – Grapes of Khan Part 2 | Snore Trek
SCOOTER: Friends beyond the binary, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it’s time for the podcaster who’s coming through across space and time, but he’s also…it could be…I considered…his use of space and time is interesting at best, or it could be called interesting. If you're confused by any of this, maybe you're new. Welcome. This podcast is called Sleep With Me, and it’s a podcast to hang out with you and help you fall asleep by just taking your mind off of stuff. I’m really glad you're here. People coming back for a visit after a while, welcome back. Regular listeners, what up? Pets, fishes, what up, my fishes? I love saying that. When I say ‘fishes’ you know it’s not exclusive to fishes. It’s just pandering not to fishes…I mean, fishes, of course I’m pandering to you. Other pets, I was not just pandering to fishes. I was pandering to you specifically but using fishes so that…as a distraction, 'cause everybody would be so jealous of you, 'cause you really are the greatest pet, you know?
What can I say? I love you. That’s why I’m pandering to you specifically as well as your lovely companion there nearby. Pandering…I don't know if I’m pandering to them, but trying to make them feel some sleepy, joyous delight. I don't know, my fishes, can you feel sleepy, joyous delight? Well, I don't know, but I’m gonna try, 'cause I’m glad you're here. Welcome to Sleep With Me, the podcast that puts you to sleep. But what we got coming up is some support, and that’s just for the super-listeners so that for new listeners, occasional listeners, and people that aren't in a position to support the show, paying is optional. Then there will be a long, meandering intro meant to ease you into bedtime, and then after that we’ll have a story. Tonight it’ll be a recap of a second-half of a film, a motion picture, a Star Trek film, but it’ll be self-contained as well about the Great…Grapes of Wrath. No, no, not the Grapes of Wrath.
I think it’s early enough in the show I could say that term, 'cause it’s not really that. It’s not super unsleepy, but later on…the Grapes of Khan, not Wrath. But you know what I mean. I change stuff around to make it more sleepy. But I’m really glad you're here. If you're new, don't worry, I’ll explain more in the intro. If you're just coming back for a visit, like I said, I’m glad to see you. If you're the best pet on the planet Earth, holy moly. I won't even use the term number…I’ll use number two because we giggle. Not the pet that’s number two to you, but I just use number two when I use pets to make us all laugh. But yeah, I’m glad everyone’s here. Now, if you listen to this podcast, it makes your life better continuously, night after night, you're who we count on to support the show for you and for a bunch of other people. When you support the show as a super-listener, you support it for all the value you get out of Sleep With Me and for all these other listeners that I’ve talked about earlier. If you are a super-listener, you say, hey, that’s me; I’d love to make sure this podcast is around for me and other people, these are the ways that you could support a sponsor or support the show directly right here. Thanks.
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The only reason I kinda run through some of that stuff that might be keeping you awake is so you know you're not alone or that someone may be able to get it, wherever you're at, and that someone’s been there and they want to help you out, not only because they've been there, but they understand what it feels like, and they hope for something better for you. ‘Cause, believe me, I know what it feels like. Now, you may say, Scoots, you don't know exactly what it feels like for me. I say, you're right. I know what it feels like for me. I’ve dealt with a bunch of different stuff, but the good news is there’s enough people listening right now that someone somewhere out there, as Fievel would say correctly in this case, I think beneath this moon and stars or someone…someone’s thinking of you in a positive way. They really have been through something similar. That’s Fievel from American…an American Tail.
But, sorry, just…I never realized that the stuff I’ve been saying for the past few years in the intro…say, who said it better? Fievel actually did. Or my…well, my misquoting of Fievel is pretty…I mean, I say, well, if that’s what Fievel sang or said, then it’s pretty good. Anyway, setting aside Fievel from An American Tail for a moment. Someone…this is the serious part of the podcast and the one time I’m getting silly within this part. I mean, probably not the one time, but…I mean, I’m, not silly. Fievel’s pretty cute. My youngest brother did have a pretty big Fievel stuffy. I may still be able to find it. It may still be where I live now. But anyway, what was my point? Oh, that someone somewhere in the world…maybe they're nearby you, maybe they're across the globe. They really know what it’s like, what you're dealing with, whatever it is that brought you to this show, and they discovered this podcast.
While this podcast doesn't work for everybody, it worked for them, and they really hope that you could get the rest you need and you deserve, whether it’s through the show or I can introduce you to another podcast or start you on a road of getting a good bedtime routine or whatever it is. That’s important to me and all the other listeners, not just the people that really get where you're at, but every listener paying attention right now is rooting for you. In a sense, by rooting for you they're rooting for themselves, which is loving and it is important because they're sending that well wishes to you across the deep, dark night. They're getting a good feeling back. It is real and it does feel really good. I don't know, I’m sending it right now, and it does feel good to send well wishes to people having a tough time in the deep, dark night. So, I hope this show can help you out, because you deserve a bedtime that you don't have to dread, a bedtime without rigmarole, a bedtime where you get the rest you need on a regular basis so you could be out there in the world.
Maybe down the road you're out…you're getting the rest you need so regularly you're flourishing, 'cause that means our world’s a better place, and we need you in it. We’ll all benefit from your presence, whether you could just be…like me today, I’m going through it. Rigmarole has been the definition of my nights the past couple of weeks. Last night I did happen to get…it was…it took twelve hours for me to get almost eight hours of sleep, but I did, and I feel better a little bit today, and I feel like while I’m not at my best, I’m at my pretty-goods. Pretty goodest. Mostly pretty goodest, 'cause I’m able to be here for this show and for who needs me right now, and that’s why I love making this podcast and trying to help you out if I can, 'cause you deserve something nice at bedtime. If I can make something that’s pretty okay, yeah, not bad…if I could relieve some…and this is really true. I’m not being self-deprecating.
If you get to the point where you're like, well, at least I got that podcast guy; he’s not bad, it makes my night a little bit better…that really makes it…that’s really important to me. That really feels good to me, and it feels like success. I can strive to bring sleepy joy and delight to yours ears and only get partially there. Then my life has meaning, too, or my sleepless weeks have meaning, too. So, that’s the magic of the show. It’s really about sleepless people coming together in a indirect way, a friendly, indirect way. Now, the way it works is I send my voice across the deep, dark night. I use lulling, soothing, creaky, dulcet tones, pointless meanders, superfluous tangents. So, I go off topic, I get mixed up, I talk about Fievel or something else. Fievel…you say, what if…? Who is…? What number was El? I don't even know. Eleven. I was trying to make some sort of joke about Eleven and El. Minus…11 minus 6 is 5…times…I don't know what…what’s…? Then you say, Fievel.
But it’s really Fievel from…anyway, that’s a pointless meander, maybe a superfluous tangent. That just means I go off topic, I get mixed up, 'cause I’m here to just hang with you. Now, this podcast is not for everybody, and that’s okay. Whatever it is that brought you here, I’m still here to try to help you even if you don't like me or the show. So, alls I could tell you is to give it a few tries. That’s what hundreds and hundreds of thousands, probably a million listeners over the years have said; it took two or three tries for me to get used to the show, and the first time I was like, what is this podcast? I don't think I like it. The second time I was like, huh, I don't know about this. The third time I just fell asleep. It just takes a couple tries. Now, if you discover or you already know…you tried it two or three times; you're like, no, this just isn't the show for me. It’s not my taste. It’s not my style. I’m looking for something different. Don't worry, we…or you're already like, I definitely need something different than you, that’s totally okay.
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We’ll cover the second-half of the film and probably won't…if you've watched the film and you're like, this is not accurate at all, yeah, you're right about that. I think I’m just gonna watch it…I mean, I’ve watched it in preparation a few times, but I’m just gonna watch it on mute and go from there. But I’m really glad you're here. Whether this is your three, four, fifth-thousandth time listening to an episode or it’s your first or anywhere in-between, whether you're a brainbot or a fish or some other pet I’m speaking to specifically that may be the greatest pet in the world, I’m glad you're here. I really hope I can help you out. I really yearn and strive. I really want to help you fall asleep. Thanks for coming by. Myself and a team of people really pour our hearts into the show. If this show impacts your life in a positive way on a regular basis and you could afford to support the show or one of the sponsors or change your other streaming services and support the show, you support it for your listening and a lot of other people that listen less than you or just can't support the show. So, consider that if the podcast has changed your life, and here’s the ways you could do that. Thanks.
Alright everybody, we're back here with the Grapes of Khan on mute. No…what do you call it? Subtitles. I’m just kinda catching up where they depolarize all the grape preserves and grape jelly, send it back to Khan’s…well, not Khan’s ship; the ship Khan had taken over. Even looked and saw somewhere they were trying to freeze the jelly on Khan’s ship with some sort of spray. So, they take off and try to get away. Basically it was…Khan’s taking over an Enterprise ship. Kirk right now is not happy or he’s under…he’s…they're kinda suck. I think they don't have any power. Scotty comes up from the bridge. He’s got one of his friends covered in jelly, jam, and preserves. This rookie. Spock has to close his eyes 'cause he says, that poor rookie. He’ll always be known…and they have a whole twenty-six…down in the care bay, people have…you wouldn't think that this would be a big deal, but in space it is, and in the future.
But you could get a seed where you don't want it and you could be stuck to something. So, a big clean-up, basically. You say, well, why? Well, because least…not expected…you'd say, we never anticipated our ship being covered in jam jelly and/or preserves, and the interior of the ship and all the crew, and so…and none of the crew members did…we didn't have this in the paperwork. There’s a serious gravity to the situation 'cause that rookie says, you know what? I resign my post forever from Starfleet. Then we see the space station again. It really looks great. The space station is empty. The Enterprise is calling in, but there’s no one there to answer. The Enterprise is really close. I think they even pull in to dock. Kirk has jelly on his…is that a lapel? I don't know, the chest of his jacket. He’s like, what we got here is a mystery. We got this empty planet, we got a space station, we got Khan on one of the ships, we’ve got…what are we gonna do, Spock? Spock says, it’s all illogical.
He goes, yeah, we gotta do something 'cause we gotta power down. They're around. They could be on the other side of that planet, more or less. McCoy, you got anything, quips? Yeah, I’m gonna cross my arms. I think they say, let’s go down to the planet. Saavik says, I’m coming with you. Oh, okay. McCoy says, let me raise my eyebrows at that, because that was unexpected. Spock, you're in charge of the ship, but we’ll be back. McCoy has to throw something in there. Don't do anything illogical, buddy, while we're down there. They take the A turbo lift and they materialize in between Geoplastics and Gravitronics. JK and G and H. They do some scanning. They have their full coats on just in case it’s cold. They say, okay, let’s get some sticky string, Silly String ready, too, just in case. Let’s walk around gently. Wow, this is some space station. Is this a science vessel or a space station? Let’s just walk separately even though we have…our ship’s FaceTiming them.
They have JBK sensors on that ship for synthostasis, so, I don't know what the history of those sensors are. There’s a lot of doors opening. Really nice…oh, McCoy goes into Geoplastics, which is connected to Thermo…let’s see what…Thermo…Thermonics. Go from Geoplastics to Thermonics. He notices that when he gets into Geoplastics, a large number of the space station crew is in that sleep space, like a real sleep-space state, but seemingly without the pods that are so famous in other pieces of science fiction. McCoy says, impossible. This couldn't have been done except by maybe some sort of hypnosis. Then they check some sort of box, the number-one box, box number one. It’s all locked up. Inside that box, sleeping inside a box is McCoy and Winfield. Winfield and…not McCoy and Winfield. Sorry, we just got back. The former crew member from the Enterprise whose name I’ll get. I almost had it. But he’s like, sorry, captain, we gotta…yeah, everybody…it wasn’t…he goes, it’s not hypnosis.
It’s some sort of spell cast by juggling grapes. Puts everybody to sleep. Commander Winfield, whose name I forget, he’s very…they're both having trouble waking up. He says, what’s going on? I don't know if I recall. Something about grapes, jelly, jam? Our ship’s…well, the Enterprise is covered in jam. They came here. They told us to go to sleep. They juggled…or Khan juggled grapes, put everybody else to sleep. Meanwhile, Saavik’s in the back. She says, that’s not logical. Juggling grapes casts a spell has nothing to do with hypnosis. They say, nothing to do with hypnosis…we're only here to help you. We just really want to help get this mission resolved. We're not under the influence of grapes at all. Not drinking grapes, not dancing grapes, not any grapes. Then Kirk says, let me check their energizer…transporter room. I got a theory. McCoy says, I got a theory, too. Saavik says, let’s reach in here. It looks like somebody dropped something.
Kirk sits down and says, huh, let me think about this here. Well, let me call Spock. Hey, Spock, you read me? Anybody read me? Nothing comes up. Saavik says, huh, that’s interesting. Then Kirk tries again. Huh, not getting a signal. Or is he even broadcasting? Is he broadcasting just because Khan is listening? This is the old…this is the actual careless whisper instead of the grape whisper, 'cause I believe Kirk is doing a little wordplay, maybe even singing Careless Whisper but using it to broadcast information he wants Khan to hear, 'cause Khan thinks he doesn't know that he knows he’s listening in. So, whatever, he spreads a little…sows a little…the old Captain Kirk special. Then he says, okay, let’s energize back. Let’s do a auto-energize. Let’s go to the last location, maybe? McCoy’s like, what are you…what? Or something. They all go, yeah, let’s do that. So, they turn pink and they energize out. Then we see the planet, planetoid, moon. They energize in to some sort of…another base. No windows.
So, we can assume safely 'cause they showed us the planet first that this is within the planet. There’s a giant locker. McCoy opens up the locker. It’s a science tube instrument similar to the one they saw that had powers to make any environment a thematic environment, a theme park. Then Blue Lagoon comes out, and he does a dance-off with Kirk. Kirk has to show him…he goes, son, I’ve been dancing before you were a twinkle in Brooke Shields’ eye. But then he notices the kid’s hair, then he notices the lead scientist’s hair, then he notices that they used to know each other. I do mean biblically. I mean, I guess I don't know if I mean biblically, but I think I mean biblically. She says, James…and then she says, let’s resolve this without a dance-off. Then suddenly Winfield and…why can't I think of his name? Oh, Chekov. I don't know why it took me so long. All of a sudden Chekov and Winfield…now, I never noticed this ‘til just now, but what is that at? Let’s do a jump back ten seconds.
Okay, so we're at 01:07:06, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. So, 01:07:12 in the film. I didn't…I never noticed this before, but there seems to be some sort of improvised device. This is a fairly dated reference, but just in case any…there’s people that are the same date as me or you're curious to learn more, in Earth…in our Earth era, whatever you want to call it, the oh-boy era from…the oh-boy era of Earth, there was these things known as crystal radios. This is a real thing. I’ve talked about this on the Radio Shack episodes. You could get a crystal radio kit, make your own crystal radio. Now, I didn't pay attention to the science part of it. That’s why I’m not on a science station. But somehow the crystal can…without battery power, I believe…I’m not positive about this, but I’m pretty sure the battery power of the…somehow the crystal could pull in without power at least AM radio broadcasts. It wouldn't be…it would be hard to amplify because it didn't have power, and I think maybe part of the kit was converting those radio waves into, whatever, sound waves.
So, I’m not sure how it does all that. But it’s a long way of saying that Khan has a very similar device he’s improvised somehow connected to his wrist. Now, this may also work like one of those batteries, like seawater batteries, but based on maybe human…or, well, I don't know; Khan’s not human, but Khan’s sweat or Khan…is Khan a meta-human? I don't know. I think he is. But this device is not a crystal radio even though that’s my first impression…was like, he’s got some sort of wrist-based crystal radio with a salt-water battery that actually runs on his own sweat. But what I do believe this is is some sort of grape-based…after…it’s a way for him…it’s a crystal sweat broadcaster amplifier. So, it’s able to amplify Khan’s whisper into, in this case…Captain Winfield; I can't remember his actual, real name. Or, I mean, that’s his real…Chekov and Winfield are still under the influence of Khan’s whisper. So, it’s like some sort of whisper amp…it’s still a whisper 'cause no one can hear it but them.
So, basically what they say is, hey…maybe it also works by radio. But they say, hey, by the way, we're in charge here with Khan. Chekov doesn't like it even though he’s stuck with the whisper. Khan says, okay, do you got everything I need? I need that big tube thing. We're gonna build some theme-based worlds, terraforming. Winfield says, I don't…I can't be a part…you can't just build a theme park world on a planet even if…without its permission first. Oh, I see; it works on a wristband. So, Winfield was wearing a wristband that he removes, but the Win…whatever the wristband is…now, this is unfortunate but this is also science fiction; when you remove the wristband, it’s modulating…whatever Khan’s whisper is, it’s kind of beyond our understanding. Unfortunately, he turns to jelly or jam or some other thing.
Now, I don't think this part was anticipated, but somehow him turning to jelly…'cause it’s really that somehow when Khan’s whispering to you, he’s actually putting some jelly into your…the way you hear, so…which…okay, that makes sense, right? Like jelly jam material. It’s sticky, it’s in your…and then the crystal radio was somehow…that’s how he gets the whisper from a remote thing. So, instead of hearing just what you're hearing with your regular hearing, you're hearing a vibration of jelly, which you don't know. You just think it’s your own thoughts or whatever. But because Winfield’s actions of removing his wristband and becoming just jelly, that makes Chekov’s jelly melt out of his ears. So, Kirk yells into the wristbands, which are also radios with Khan. At first Khan is dismayed. Whatever he says to him…probably not very nice. He’s really yelling. He says, by the way, I’m not happy about this. I love Winfield. Chekov was originally one of my crew members.
I don't know, whatever he says blows Khan’s mind. But unfortunately they don't even…they still manage to get the device, the theme-building device off of the base or wherever they are, which is really not good news because…I don't know, whatever he did to say to Khan is like…Khan is still like, I can't believe he said that about my…whatever. I’m really not happy at all now. Maybe he said, I left you behind on purpose or whatever. Wow, he’s really…he’s leaning back. He’s both relaxed and tense at the same time. But I guess he’s talking to Kirk 'cause he says, yeah, by the way, we’ve got the…he goes, you thought it was just a device…your problem was creating a themed entertainment complex planet where no one desires one. He goes, let me lay this on you, Captain Kirk, Admiral Kirk, James T. Kirk; where’s your hometown again? Because…what if I just…? He goes, what if I just make your hometown or your home planet, Earth, presumably…I’m making a big leap there, but I think so.
Earth, USA or whatever he would say, we're gonna…he goes, what if I just send this device down there and your…all of Earth becomes one big theme…? He goes, well, it’s…he goes, yeah, but instantly everybody on there becomes in the employ of this themed environment. Kirk goes, well, I don't know how there could even be enough customers for that. He goes, it doesn't need to be viable. The device makes it viable. Kirk looks at the scientist who…she nods. Says, yep, unfortunately he’s right. It doesn't make any…it’s science. Sometimes science is like magic and sometimes it’s like not-good magic. But it also is good magic. It just depends on your perspective. So, then Khan says, I don't know who you love on Earth, but imagine them as…you know, they get…what if they're…they're just…he goes, maybe they're gonna be deep-frying churros all day. Kirk goes, no. Deep-frying churros…deep-frying churros, or however he would say it.
Then everybody’s a bit down thinking about the people…okay, what are the worst jobs you could have in a themed planet? Then they get…okay, is this really possible by science? The scientist says, actually, yeah, we discovered this paradox. Paradox? Yeah, two dox next to each other. From that we developed a theory. She goes, this is my son, by the way. Kirk says, I gotta put my glasses on. The son says, you know, there’s some things that are appealing about a planet of theme parks. He’s younger. No one else is, so he says, I gotta take a walk. Nobody gets me. Then Kirk says, maybe the scientists and I should be left alone. Saavik says, I don't understand any of this. Every world…why does a world need a theme if it’s already what it is? She walks off. What it is…so, then Kirk is alone with the scientist. Now, like I said, they had some sort of…they know one another. I think they get to this point now…he says, is that the kid from the Blue Lagoon? She goes, I thought that we were in a turquoise lagoon.
Yeah, about exactly nine months after we swam in that turquoise lagoon, James T. Kirk. He goes, huh, let me think about this silently. She goes, I gotta put a coat on. He goes, wait a second, nine months…? Wait a second, because…what? Wait, what? She goes, yeah, yeah, exactly. My son, your son, but not our son because you're busy running around in outer space. So, that’s not the…meanwhile, Chekov’s there the whole time sleeping with paper towels around him to keep absorbing any jelly or jam. Kirk won't even make eye contact 'cause he’s kinda like…I don't know, he doesn't make it about him too much, but a little bit, you know? She goes, listen, man, let’s just be realists here. Yes and no, it didn't…it wouldn't…there’s not a path through space and time that would have ever made it work other than this way. She goes, take my hand. I gotta show you something. Then we go back to Khan’s ship, and whatever had Khan down…he’s in a little bit of a better mood.
But the scientist says, James, I want to show you something before you get a idea. This was our first themed world. She shows it to him through this window and it’s like this cool indoor…you know the indoor/outdoor thing. Disney once upon a time did that the best. She goes, this is indoor/outdoor, but it’s real. That’s the difference between…our themed environments are real. So, real sunshine, real waterfalls. Not forced perspective but epic perspectives. Then Khan’s flying around. We go back to his ship. He sees the station. No Enterprise. Now everybody’s checking out this themed world under…they're eating…they're even eating stuff. It’s kinda like the beginning of the original Willy Wonka film. Not the beginning part, though; I guess the beginning of the part at the Wonka…where they're in that room and everything’s edible and wonderful, though this situation is not. So…and Kirk’s feeling a little philosophical, you know? So, they were eating apples.
So, this is like…I guess it was a bigger deal than I knew. This is an actual organic manufacture…manufactured and organic at the same time? This was what kinda they’re talking about. Like, we could eat this stuff? They go, yeah, those are our cotton-candy clouds that can be eaten, and they're clouds. It’s gonna rain. We don't have the branding for Skittles, but it’s gonna rain Skittles in about eight minutes. So, usually what we do is we wear sombreros. They're plastic or hard sombreros so that we don't get pelted with Skittle…not Skittles but, you know, Skittle-like snacks. Then you can eat them. Then Saavik says, illogical. You can't…what if you eat them all? They say, oh no, they’ll be reabsorbed into the environment if you leave them behind. So, then Kirk’s like, we gotta get back to the ship and figure this out. I gotta talk to Spock. So, they go back. They say, let’s go for a jog around the ship.
I tricked Khan, so he thinks we're…he thinks that we're gonna be on this planet with a themed environment on the inside. Spock goes, was there rides? Kirk goes, I didn't think to ask, but it rains something like Skittles. They go back to the bridge because they're gonna dance-off with the Reliant. That’s the name of the other ship that Khan has taken over. They say, Scotty, can you get this ship working or what? He says, I’ll do my best. Unfortunately my jelly…my waterproof suit is white, so it’ll be covered in jelly, but I better get back to work, huh? He said, you've been sitting around the bridge the whole time I was gone? Scotty says, yeah, the…Engineering’s covered in goo. So, then everybody gets called to duty. It’s time. A lot of people carrying light sticks. But they figured out that these light sticks solidify into a full Jell-O Jiggler. This happened, I think, maybe in the director’s cut. But they figure out that…they figured out that they could use these light sticks…I mean, they're not just light sticks, obviously.
They're some sort of science-based light stick. But they…that you could touch any jelly or jam with them. They’ll turn into a Jell-O Jiggler. You might say, what’s the big deal with that? I say, well, have you ever held Jell-O in your hand, or jelly? Then have you ever held a Jell-O Jiggler in your hand? It doesn't…a well-made Jell-O Jiggler does not leave any remnants behind, where anything else is gonna be sticky. On a spaceship, that’s just not a good idea. So, anyway, they're ready now and they're getting…they have some sort of sour grace…sour grape-based…something that’s gonna turn everything on Khan’s ship into vinegar. I don't know what that is. Maybe it’s just the natural flora within us, you know, that they talk about, or within the world, kinda like…the mother. I guess that’s probably what it is. So, they got…they packed everything. They got these tubes they're gonna send over there with mother, I guess. That’ll vinegarize any grapes.
They're also gonna go into these clouds 'cause they don't have every…they're still working on repairing their ship. So, both ships will be in there, and you can't use your shields within this cloud. So, that evens things out, apparently. It gives them one less thing they have to try to repair, maybe. Now meanwhile, Kirk’s son, which I guess we could say Blue Lagoon, he comes on. He’s wearing…he’s looking very collegiate and preppy. I’m not saying that in a bad way. He’s got a sweater tied around his neck. But meanwhile they're in the middle of action, trying to figure out what Khan’s up to, maneuver, outmaneuver Khan. Kirk’s…does, 'cause he’s got a lot more experience. He’s also…Khan…it’s amazing; Khan’s got that Avengers Starfleet necklace still. But his second-in-command, old roller disco, he says, what are you doing, man? Kirk’s gonna outmaneuver us. He says, don't sass me. Then they're also…this is like the stormy sea version of where they are.
So, Spock’s like, this is gonna impact the power, sir. Kirk says, that’s exactly what I want. Go deeper into the clouds. I know exactly what I’m doing. So, this is like one of those undersea-maneuvering movies. We go back to Khan’s ship. He’s kinda…he doesn't…he’s lost intention or, whatever, initiative? Yeah, I guess…what is…is that what you roll for when you're playing a roleplaying game? He’s way behind on initiative now. He’s given all the initiative to Kirk, and also, all his people know it. We get some great shots of the ships flying, and then at some point coming up here, they're trying to find one another. But Enterprise is much far above, if you can use that terminology in a space context. Then it manages to come right in behind, which I guess still in space is not a good thing. Part of it is you don't even have a rear-view mirror, right, and the cameras aren't working. Nothing electrical is working reliably in these clouds. So, first they try light beams that are doing the same thing.
Like, they would turn any grape jellies or jams on board Khan’s ship to Jell-O Jigglers, which would be not really launchable. They’d get caught in their launchers. The storm gets worse. Blue Lagoon is watching the whole time. There’s a lot of lights that are blocking Khan’s view. Kirk says, you know, just be patient, just be patient. He says, once we have it, we’ll vinegar them. But meanwhile, Khan actually gets off a couple good ones with the workable jelly on their ship. So, he manages to turn…get some jelly and jam on board the Enterprise. Meanwhile, they do the same thing. So, Khan’s ship…because of the…because everything gets jammed, his second-in-command says…maybe they existed on some sort of grape-based internal systems? I don't know. He goes, everything within me has turned to a Jell-O Jiggler. I’ll never…I never want to dance again. I mean, roller disco. Khan says, no. Then he goes, also, I’m not serving on the ship anymore. Then Chekov goes to meet with Kirk.
He says, yeah, man, can…how about I take over on the bridge? I’m totally up for it. Spock says, illogical, but I love it. Kirk says, thanks, Spock. That’s why I love you. He goes, we’ve gotta figure something else out. We're still on…we're kinda still at a stand-off. Spock says, Jim…yeah. He goes, you'll figure it out. I believe in you. Then that’s just…I just needed that validation. He goes, let me sit down. Okay. Get ready. We're gonna do both. We're gonna Jell-O Jiggler vinegar into their ship, maybe. Maybe. I’m thinking about it. We’ll move in on them again. First I gotta try a maneuver that’s called the…well, they'll call it the Kirk once they hear about it. He goes, everybody watch. Pay attention. Khan’s trying to figure out what to do, his move. So, he’s watching his screens. Meanwhile he’s probably distracted. Once again, the Enterprise sneaks right up behind them. He says, Chekov, why don't you launch that vinegar…those vinegar rockets?
At the same time, right when the vinegar-based…the stuff that’s gonna create vinegar out of grapes will solidify it, he says, do it. So, basically somehow they turn all the jelly and jam and grape…everything grape into a vinegar thing, and then they gelatinize it. Now, why is this important? Because no one wants to work on a ship that permanently has a overwhelming vinegar smell. It’s very distracting and hard to focus on your job. Like, working in a grape-smelling environment is great. This is just what I’ve heard. I mean, it’s also logical, right? It wouldn't be logical to work in an environment that…I mean, you say, what…? It’s just a little too acidic for most people. I mean, anybody. So, most of the people are like, yo, I’m getting on those exit pods. I’m not working here anymore. Then, ironically, Khan had covered himself in jelly. So, now he’s kind of got this jelly…he’s like, I’m staying behind, you know? I’m not leaving my ship.
So, he’s having trouble maneuvering the ship anymore because he’s a little bit stiff because he’s covered in a suit of solidified jelly and jam that’s also been a little bit vinegarized. But he has one more move left, which is to turn the Enterprise into a theme park, which I guess I didn't even think of. But I say, that’s a brilliant move. He’s gonna waste the thing that he tried to take. But it’s very complicated. You gotta turn all these rings to make sure…so, he’s gonna send it to the Enterprise, right? He’s like, Jim, I’ve already assigned you a role as a jester forever. You'll be a jester on the USS Enterprise, which will be a theme park. So, he keeps turning these tubes. Each one he has to turn to get it ready to go, and then he has to wait 999 seconds or second equivalents. Spock says, wait a second, I think he’s gonna turn everything around here into a theme park. He’s gonna activate the device. Kirk says, wait a second, what?
Yeah, Spock says, everything within, whatever, eight million miles or whatever is gonna become a themed environment. Everything, everyone. Including my son from the Blue Lagoon? Yeah. Spock, what are we gonna do? Spock says, let me think. I got an idea. If only we could get to warp speed, we could get outta here, and then Khan would be the only person we know of…but our ship has no power or maybe just impulse power. We can't get outta here. ‘Cause under warp power, we could easily be gone. Spock says, let me go down to Engineering. I have a special relationship with grapes and grape juice, vinegar, all that. He goes down to Engineering, and McCoy is down there. He says, what are you doing? Spock says, I’m gonna go in the room that’s sealed off. McCoy says, you can't go in that room. It’s sealed off. Spock goes, yeah, but that’s where we can…I can reset the…I can do a full reset of the engine.
McCoy says, no, no, if you go in there…he goes, whatever it is…he goes, something’s in that room that was the same thing that converted Khan’s crew into…he goes, I believe they were grape-based beings. But whatever we triggered…so, he goes, you'll turn into a grape-based being and then you'll become a Jiggler. He goes, the only reason Khan made it through it is because he’s, whatever, eight hundred years old. Spock says, go to sleep. I’m gonna fix it. I’m gonna be the big hero. I’m only doing it 'cause I’m heroic. I don't need to be a hero. So, he gets to work, and it’s really like, oh man, there’s jelly and jam and preserves flying everywhere. I guess you'd say in a sense it’s like micro jelly and jam, because I think their point scientifically was that it was like they're some sort of…Khan maybe invented some sort of nano-jam or nano-jelly that may have had some intelligence, too, but then that could obviously become a part of you.
So, this is like this thing where Khan…or it’s not…of course it’s not just one button to reset the engine. So, Spock has to go through all this stuff. So, meanwhile, he’s converting to a jelly-based being, more or less. It’s tough…a grape-jelly-based being or whatever. But meanwhile he’s also becoming a Jell-O Jiggler, which means he’s losing his ability to move around easily and stuff. Meanwhile, Khan thinks he’s won, so he’s just laugh…they keep going back to him. He’s laughing. He’s rolling around in jelly and jam. He just keeps saying, James Jester, James T. Kirk. He goes, just…he goes, dance for me, Jester Kirk. You know, stuff like that. I’ll have a lollipop, Jester Kirk. So, then Spock is trying to reset things, more or less. So, he gets the reset going, or reboot, and right as the clock…ticking clock…'cause it wasn't 999 seconds. It was a countdown, not a second-based countdown. He gets the reboot completed. They go into warp.
Now, meanwhile, Khan’s ship and everything in the area…look, there was these co-centric rings, and we don't know happens yet. So, then we go back to the post…alls you can see is this glowing and stuff. They're watching it at a distance, this change being…happening. The scientist, she’s watching. Her son was watching Kirk, and then he holds his mother’s hand. Isn't this beautiful. It’s like a sun or something. It is beautiful, but Spock’s not here for me to enjoy it. Then he says…Kirk says, where’s Spock? He’d want to see this. So, they go down. So, there was that planet. So, and then we get these beautiful effects of that planetoid, and it’s terraforming live in front of us, which does involve, I guess, apparently some sort of volcanic activity, which would make sense, as that’s a part…I don't know if there’s glac…whatever you say, glacier…gla…whatever, glacier action. But there’s volcanic activity and stuff like that. So, I guess they first create the land environment.
But he gets down to Engineering and he wants to go hug Spock in the sealed-off room, but they say, you can't go in there, otherwise you'll turn into a grape-based being and then you'll solidify. Spock solidified. Then he calls in through the PA, Spock, can you hear me? Spock, can you hear me? Spock was resting, and he gets up, which takes a lot more effort. He actually fixes his jacket in a very dignified way, then he goes up as best he can to…he can't leave 'cause they gotta keep that room sealed now, for sure. He says, Jim, I consider you more than a coworker. I consider you a friend, and I’ve always looked up to you. Despite what people say about you behind your back, I love you and accept you for who you are. I do find you to be a good leader despite feelings to the contrary deep within me. We have a saying on Vulcan that’s not logical, that’s…goes, nobody’s perfect. Kirk says, that’s the most logical thing I ever heard.
He says, Jim, nobody’s perfect, but our friendship and friendship in general is kind of an imperfectly perfect thing. He says, I gotta sit down, man, 'cause I can't…I’m jiggling. Then he gets down. He goes, now, one more thing, Jim. Try to reel it in sometimes. Remember, you're imperfect. Then they do the Vulcan…the V thing on the window. At first Kirk’s like, I don't know if I’m this comfortable with this level of intimacy, though he does care. So, he doesn't actually match…I guess he’s not Vulcan, so…and then Spock says, I am now a Jell-O Jiggler, and he becomes…he’s still jiggling, but the Spock that we know…for the time being is resting as the Jell-O Jiggler. So, then I say, you know what would be great? If we take Spock and we send him to the theme park planet. I don't know. I just have a great idea, and I think that’s what we’ll do. They have a nice ceremony. The park…you can't go to the planet while it’s under construction because it’s not…it’s some sort of, I don't know, miraculous construction.
But they send Spock there. Then Kirk is like…he’s back reading his book. It looks like he’s having champagne, and his son comes. They try to have a moment together. He’s like, yeah, I’m no parent. Not a father. I’m a father figure, but…you seem like you're a good kid. Let me give you a hug. I don't know, maybe he doesn't tell him he’s his dad. I don't know. Then they leave the planet, then they have a moment on the bridge where they're looking at it from afar, 'cause it’s becoming more and…it develops atmosphere, it has its own sun, I think, and oceans and it looks beautiful from afar particularly, 'cause there’s no lines when it’s…you're not waiting in line for a ride or whatever. I don't know if the organic process generates its own customers. Maybe that’s a part of it. So, we're looking on that planet longingly but with a sense of…it’s idealized at this moment, and Spock’s on there. So, they all get philosophical. Kirk makes a couple speeches about it.
He goes, remember, while I expect imperfection as your captain, it may not be possible. Then we get a view of some of the themed environments. A little bit like the Jungle Cruise or something. We see even the Mark 4 thing, gelatinous jelly-holder that Spock’s in, and more…maybe more terraforming, mist, and sunshine. Yeah, the movie comes to a close. So, I hope you enjoyed the Grapes of Khan Part 2, everybody. Maybe you could rest as if we were all on a bed of Jell-O Jigglers that was a bed and not really Jell-O, but in a sense like that perfectly…that perfect…I don't know. Is that a plasma? I have no idea. It’s more of a solid, I guess, just like the solid friendship of Kirk and Spock. Goodnight.
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Fievel
https://www.heyalma.com/revisiting-an-american-tail-a-deeply-jewish-immigration-story/
https://rebeccainprint.com/2025/04/15/an-american-tail-a-hidden-history-lesson/
Crystal Radios
https://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/remembering-the-crystal-radio
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/radio/radio-receivers/how-does-crystal-radio-work.php
https://author.1632magazine.com/technology/radio-faq-part-2/
Vinegar
https://gastropod.com/sour-grapes-the-history-and-science-of-vinegar/
https://greatlakespickling.com/history-of-vinegar-making/
Leonard Nimoy
https://theconversation.com/one-of-the-family-leonard-nimoys-impact-on-fandom-38356
https://www.metv.com/stories/leonard-nimoy-was-obsessed-with-work-that-had-a-social-impact
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Tonight we’ll be talking about a really good Star Trek movie
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Khan’s Sour Grapes
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STORY
Back here with Grapes of Khan, on mute, no subtitles
They depolarized all the grape preserves and sent it back to Khan’s hip
Khan has taken over an Enterprise ship and tries to get away
Scotty has a friend covered in preserves
Spock can’t handle that poor rookie
In space, this is a big deal
You could get a seed stuck somewhere you don’t want
It’s just not something that you anticipate
Pulling into dock
Kirk has jelly on his…lapel?
What’s the mystery of this planet?
Spock says it’s illogical
Kirk and Saavik go down to the planet
They do some scanning and prep their silly string
Is this a science vessel or a space station?
JBK sensors for synthostasis
McCoy goes into the Geoplastics room
From Geoplastics to Thermonics
A large number of the space station crew are asleep in there
Not asleep in pods. Maybe via hypnosis?
Checking the boxes
McCoy and the guy played by Winfield are asleep
It’s not hypnosis, it’s a spell
They’re having trouble waking up
Grape Juggling Spell
Kirk wants to check their transporter room
They’ve got theories
Kirk calls Spock to consult
Hello? Anybody there?
No communication
The actual careless whisper
The Old Captain Kirk Special
Khan doesn’t know that Kirk knows that Khan can hear them
Let’s auto-energize back
McCoy is confused
Then we see them energize into a different base
We can assume this is on the same planet
A science tube instrument in a giant locker
This can make any place a thematic environment
Then Blue Lagoon comes out and does a dance with Kirk
Kirk realizes that Blue Lagoon and the scientist know each other
Oh, the name is Chekov
Let’s jump back for a sec
01:07:12 – an improvised device
Fairly dated reference incoming
Remember crystal radios?
Somehow without power, it could pull in AM radio broadcasts
I don’t know how it worked
Khan has a very similar device that he’s improvised
Is it powered by Khan’s sweat?
A saltwater radio that runs on sweat
Basically, it amplifies Khan’s whisper
Winfield and Chekov are still under Khan’s power
Khan needs that tube thing to terraform some Theme-Based Words (TBWs)
You can’t just build a theme park wherever you want
Winfield also has a wristband
Unfortunately, when you remove it, you turn into jelly
That happens to Winfield
When Khan whispers, he’s putting jelly into how your ear
So you’re hearing the vibration of jelly, not your actual thoughts
Chekov’s jelly melts out of his ears when he sees Winfield jellify
Kirk yells and Khan is dismayed
Kirk loved Winfield and Chekov
Khan still manages to get the device off the planet
Khan really doesn’t like what Khan said to him
Khan threatens to turn Earth into one big themed area
And all humans become theme park employees
Sometimes science is like not good magic
People will be deep frying churros all day!
Is this really possible? The scientists say so
Kirk says maybe he and the scientist should be left alone
Saavik doesn’t understand
Why would a world need a theme if it already is what it is
Kirk and this scientist have known each other (biblically)
Blue Lagoon is…Kirk’s child?
Chekov is still sleeping with paper towels keeping his jelly in
Kirk is processing this news
This was the only way it could’ve worked
She wants to show Kirk something
Khan is on his ship, feeling down
She shows Kirk their first themed world
A real indoor outdoor area
Real sunshine, real waterfalls
No forced perspective, only epic perspectives
Khan can’t find them
Kirk feels a little philosophical
An actual organic, manufactured themed experience
It’s gonna rain skittles in eight minutes!
Where your hard sombrero to prepare
Kirk goes back to the Enterprise to consult all this with Spock
They go back to the bridge to prepare to dance off with the Reliant (Khan’s ship)
Scotty can get it back up and running
Engineering is covered in good
Everyone gets ready
They can use light sticks to turn jelly into Jello jigglers
A well-made jello jiggler won’t leave a mess
They have something that’s gonna turn everything on Khan’s ship into vinegar
The natural flora within us
Like the mother in kombucha
They’ll hide in the clouds while they repair their ship
They can’t use their shields while they’re repairing
Blue Lagoon is now looking very preppy
Kirk successfully outmaneuvers Khan
Roller Disco questions Khan’s moves
Going deeper into the clouds
It’s like one of those submarine movies
Khan has lost initiative (in the D&D sense)
Nothing electrical is working reliably in these clouds
First they try to jellify Khan’s ship
The storm gets worse
Blue Lagoon watches the whole time
Khan manages to get off a few good jelly shots
I’m not sure why, but Roller Disco says that everything within him has turned to Jello Jiggler
Chekov goes to meet with Kirk and offers to take over on the bridge
Spock approves
Kirk doesn’t know what to do, but Spock believes in Kirk
We’ll send jello jiggler and vinegar into the ship at the same time
Gotta do a new maneuver called the Kirk
Sneaking up behind Khan
Make it vinegar, then immediately solidify it
No one wants to work in a place that smells like vinegar all the time
Grapes, that’s another story
Ironically, Khan had covered himself in jelly
Khan’s crew abandon ship
He can’t control the ship because now he’s a little stiff
Khan has one move left
He can turn the Enterprise into a theme park
A brilliant move, honestly
He has to turn a lot of rings and tubes
Jim, you’ll be a jester in this new theme park!
Counting down from 999
Spock realizes Khan’s plan to activate the device
Everything and everyone will transform
Can we get to warp speed in time?
There’s no power!
Spock has a plan
Spock goes down to engineering
He’s gonna go down into the room that’s sealed off
Don’t do it, Spock!
Something is in that room!
You’ll turn into a grape-based being and then a jiggler!
Spock is just going to be a hero
He gets to work
There’s jelly and jam and preserves flying everywhere!
Khan invented a nanojelly
Of course, it’s not just one button to reset the engine
Spock is slowly turning into a jello jiggler
Khan thinks he’s won
Laughing and rolling around
Jester James T Kirk!
Spock gets the reboot completed
They get away
Things are slowly changing because of the device…
The planet is terraforming live in front of us
Glacier Action
Kirk goes to find Spock so he can see it, too
Kirk can’t go in there with Spock
Spock was resting
He gets up as best he can
That room has to be sealed now
Spock considers Kirk a friend
Nobody’s Perfect – an illogical and logical statement
Spock is jigglin’
They do the Vulcan V Thing on the window
Spock says he’s now fully a jello jiggler
Let’s send Spock to the theme park planet
They have a nice ceremony
Kirk has a moment with his son
He’s not a father but he is a father figure
I’m not sure if Blue Lagoon knows that Kirk is his dad
They’re looking at theme park planet being built
It looks beautiful from afar
Does the organic process generate its own customers?
Then we get a view of some of the themed environments
We see the jelly holder that Spock is in
Mist and Sunshine
And the movie comes to a close
Hopefully you can rest on a bed of jello jigglers
Is jello jiggler a plasma?
The solid friendship of Kirk and Spock
SUMMARY:
Episode: 1433
Title: Grapes of Khan Part 2 | Snore Trek
Plugs: Sleep With Me Plus; SleepPhones; Story Only Feed; Emily Tat Artwork; Crisis Textline; Referral Program
Sponsors: Helix Sleep; Zocdoc; Coyuchi
Notable Language:
- My Mostly Pretty Good-est
- Fievel / 5L
- Khan’s Sour Grapes
- JBK sensors for synthostasis
- From Geoplastics to Thermonics
- The Old Captain Kirk Special
- Fairly Dated Reference Incoming
- Theme-Based Words (TBWs)
- Skittle-Like Snacks
- Jello JIggler
- The natural flora within us
- Grape-Based Being (GBB)
- Nanojelly
- Jester James T Kirk!
- Glacier Action
- Nobody’s Perfect
- Vulcan V Thing
Notable Culture:
- Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
- The Grapes of Wrath
- An American Tail / Fievel
- Stranger Things
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- sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou
- “Careless Whisper” song
- Blue Lagoon
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- Brooke Shields
- Radio Shack
- Disney
- Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
- Wonka
- Skittles
- JELLO
- Dungeons and Dragons
Notable Talking Points:
- Whatever it is, I’m glad you’re here
- Someone else has been where are, and they want to help you out
- You’re right, I don’t know exactly what it’s like
- As Fievel would say, someone is out there, thinking of you
- Setting aside Fievel for a moment…
- My youngest brother did have a pretty cute Fievel stuffy
- Hopefully you’re getting so much rest that you’re flourishing
- Lately, I’ve been going through the rigmarole
- It took about 12 hours to get 8 hours of sleep
- I’m at my mostly pretty good-est
- At least you have that podcast guy who’s not bad
- Fievel / 5L
- I was trying to make a joke about Eleven and L
- Well, that was an example of a pointless meander
- It normally takes a couple tries to adjust to the podcast
- sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou
- I’m here to be your borefriend
- We’ve all had someone put us to sleep in this manner, either purposefully or inadvertently
- Tonight we’ll be talking about a really good Star Trek movie
- I have to relisten to part 1 before I record this second part
- Explaining the show structure
- I’m good at handling those brainbots
- Easing you into bedtime with a wind down routine
- If you fall asleep fast, please support the show on Sleep With Me Plus
- Khan’s Sour Grapes
- You’re correct that my recap is not accurate at all
- I’m glad you’re here
- Back here with Grapes of Khan, on mute, no subtitles
- They depolarized all the grape preserves and sent it back to Khan’s hip
- Khan has taken over an Enterprise ship and tries to get away
- Scotty has a friend covered in preserves
- Spock can’t handle that poor rookie
- In space, this is a big deal
- You could get a seed stuck somewhere you don’t want
- It’s just not something that you anticipate
- Pulling into dock
- Kirk has jelly on his…lapel?
- What’s the mystery of this planet?
- Spock says it’s illogical
- Kirk and Saavik go down to the planet
- They do some scanning and prep their silly string
- Is this a science vessel or a space station?
- JBK sensors for synthostasis
- McCoy goes into the Geoplastics room
- From Geoplastics to Thermonics
- A large number of the space station crew are asleep in there
- Not asleep in pods. Maybe via hypnosis?
- Checking the boxes
- McCoy and the guy played by Winfield are asleep
- It’s not hypnosis, it’s a spell
- They’re having trouble waking up
- Grape Juggling Spell
- Kirk wants to check their transporter room
- They’ve got theories
- Kirk calls Spock to consult
- Hello? Anybody there?
- No communication
- The actual careless whisper
- The Old Captain Kirk Special
- Khan doesn’t know that Kirk knows that Khan can hear them
- Let’s auto-energize back
- McCoy is confused
- Then we see them energize into a different base
- We can assume this is on the same planet
- A science tube instrument in a giant locker
- This can make any place a thematic environment
- Then Blue Lagoon comes out and does a dance with Kirk
- Kirk realizes that Blue Lagoon and the scientist know each other
- Oh, the name is Chekov
- Let’s jump back for a sec
- 01:07:12 – an improvised device
- Fairly dated reference incoming
- Remember crystal radios?
- Somehow without power, it could pull in AM radio broadcasts
- I don’t know how it worked
- Khan has a very similar device that he’s improvised
- Is it powered by Khan’s sweat?
- A saltwater radio that runs on sweat
- Basically, it amplifies Khan’s whisper
- Winfield and Chekov are still under Khan’s power
- Khan needs that tube thing to terraform some Theme-Based Words (TBWs)
- You can’t just build a theme park wherever you want
- Winfield also has a wristband
- Unfortunately, when you remove it, you turn into jelly
- That happens to Winfield
- When Khan whispers, he’s putting jelly into how your ear
- So you’re hearing the vibration of jelly, not your actual thoughts
- Chekov’s jelly melts out of his ears when he sees Winfield jellify
- Kirk yells and Khan is dismayed
- Kirk loved Winfield and Chekov
- Khan still manages to get the device off the planet
- Khan really doesn’t like what Khan said to him
- Khan threatens to turn Earth into one big themed area
- And all humans become theme park employees
- Sometimes science is like not good magic
- People will be deep frying churros all day!
- Is this really possible? The scientists say so
- Kirk says maybe he and the scientist should be left alone
- Saavik doesn’t understand
- Why would a world need a theme if it already is what it is
- Kirk and this scientist have known each other (biblically)
- Blue Lagoon is…Kirk’s child?
- Chekov is still sleeping with paper towels keeping his jelly in
- Kirk is processing this news
- This was the only way it could’ve worked
- She wants to show Kirk something
- Khan is on his ship, feeling down
- She shows Kirk their first themed world
- A real indoor outdoor area
- Real sunshine, real waterfalls
- No forced perspective, only epic perspectives
- Khan can’t find them
- Kirk feels a little philosophical
- An actual organic, manufactured themed experience
- It’s gonna rain skittles in eight minutes!
- Where your hard sombrero to prepare
- Kirk goes back to the Enterprise to consult all this with Spock
- They go back to the bridge to prepare to dance off with the Reliant (Khan’s ship)
- Scotty can get it back up and running
- Engineering is covered in good
- Everyone gets ready
- They can use light sticks to turn jelly into Jello jigglers
- A well-made jello jiggler won’t leave a mess
- They have something that’s gonna turn everything on Khan’s ship into vinegar
- The natural flora within us
- Like the mother in kombucha
- They’ll hide in the clouds while they repair their ship
- They can’t use their shields while they’re repairing
- Blue Lagoon is now looking very preppy
- Kirk successfully outmaneuvers Khan
- Roller Disco questions Khan’s moves
- Going deeper into the clouds
- It’s like one of those submarine movies
- Khan has lost initiative (in the D&D sense)
- Nothing electrical is working reliably in these clouds
- First they try to jellify Khan’s ship
- The storm gets worse
- Blue Lagoon watches the whole time
- Khan manages to get off a few good jelly shots
- I’m not sure why, but Roller Disco says that everything within him has turned to Jello Jiggler
- Chekov goes to meet with Kirk and offers to take over on the bridge
- Spock approves
- Kirk doesn’t know what to do, but Spock believes in Kirk
- We’ll send jello jiggler and vinegar into the ship at the same time
- Gotta do a new maneuver called the Kirk
- Sneaking up behind Khan
- Make it vinegar, then immediately solidify it
- No one wants to work in a place that smells like vinegar all the time
- Grapes, that’s another story
- Ironically, Khan had covered himself in jelly
- Khan’s crew abandon ship
- He can’t control the ship because now he’s a little stiff
- Khan has one move left
- He can turn the Enterprise into a theme park
- A brilliant move, honestly
- He has to turn a lot of rings and tubes
- Jim, you’ll be a jester in this new theme park!
- Counting down from 999
- Spock realizes Khan’s plan to activate the device
- Everything and everyone will transform
- Can we get to warp speed in time?
- There’s no power!
- Spock has a plan
- Spock goes down to engineering
- He’s gonna go down into the room that’s sealed off
- Don’t do it, Spock!
- Something is in that room!
- You’ll turn into a grape-based being and then a jiggler!
- Spock is just going to be a hero
- He gets to work
- There’s jelly and jam and preserves flying everywhere!
- Khan invented a nanojelly
- Of course, it’s not just one button to reset the engine
- Spock is slowly turning into a jello jiggler
- Khan thinks he’s won
- Laughing and rolling around
- Jester James T Kirk!
- Spock gets the reboot completed
- They get away
- Things are slowly changing because of the device…
- The planet is terraforming live in front of us
- Glacier Action
- Kirk goes to find Spock so he can see it, too
- Kirk can’t go in there with Spock
- Spock was resting
- He gets up as best he can
- That room has to be sealed now
- Spock considers Kirk a friend
- Nobody’s Perfect – an illogical and logical statement
- Spock is jigglin’
- They do the Vulcan V Thing on the window
- Spock says he’s now fully a jello jiggler
- Let’s send Spock to the theme park planet
- They have a nice ceremony
- Kirk has a moment with his son
- He’s not a father but he is a father figure
- I’m not sure if Blue Lagoon knows that Kirk is his dad
- They’re looking at theme park planet being built
- It looks beautiful from afar
- Does the organic process generate its own customers?
- Then we get a view of some of the themed environments
- We see the jelly holder that Spock is in
- Mist and Sunshine
- And the movie comes to a close
- Hopefully you can rest on a bed of jello jigglers
- Is jello jiggler a plasma?
- The solid friendship of Kirk and Spock
