1348 – Twinkie Transference | Dreaming of Newhart S1 E18

Episode 1348 – Twinkie Transference | Dreaming of Newhart S1 E18

 

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SCOOTER: Friends beyond the binary, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, welcome to Sleep With Me. Tonight we're gonna take a dreamy visit to a Vermont inn that technically I think is a bed and…they have beds; they do serve breakfast. I don't think they did in Season 1. But when Stephanie’s working there, they’re serving food, which I know in other episodes was breakfast. Here’s a question right away…oh, welcome to Sleep With Me, by the way. This is a confusing, meandering podcast to keep you company, and…trying to help you fall asleep by being your friend in the deep, dark night, your goofy friend. If it’s a bed and breakfast, is breakfast always included? I mean, I would think so, right? So, I guess I answered my own question, which happens a lot here. But I’m glad you're here.

 

If you've been having trouble sleeping, staying asleep, getting to sleep, waking up, I’ve been there. So have a lot of other people that are listening right now, and we're all hoping this podcast can help you out. But it doesn't help you out so much by putting you to sleep or meditating you to sleep or hypnotizing you. It helps you out in a much more traditional way. One, it’s kinda like a bedtime story for grownups. Kids could listen to it, but kids tend to…I don't know, I find that adult bedtime stories kinda need to ease you into bedtime. Versus a kid, you're like, yeah…how about this? I’ll answer a couple questions, I’ll tell you a story. Fall asleep already. I’m kidding, I’m kidding, but maybe not. I don't know. I’m not…so, why is it a bedtime story? Why do you keep going on and on and on? When does the…?

 

Well, this is more like talking to a friend you don’t need to listen to. Imagine that I’m a friend or maybe somebody…you’re saying, yeah, I don't know if I want to be friends with you. Okay, imagine I’m here as a service and I’m here to just talk for your benefit, but you don’t need to listen to me, kinda like turning a TV on in the other room and not really paying attention to it, something that’s mildly entertaining. Tonight we’ll be talking about…this is a episode called Dreaming of Newhart, where we kinda do a dreamy TV recap of a sitcom, but it ends up kinda being…it’s something you could just barely listen to or barely pay attention to, or you could kinda follow. So, I’m really glad you're here if you're new. If you're a regular listener, welcome back.

 

It’s always good to see you and have you here and to try to help, help you with something that I’ve dealt with, that I’ve dealt with last night. So, I’m glad you're here. If you're new, what we got coming up; support so paying for the show is optional, then separate from the support is a long, meandering intro here to ease you into bedtime, and then later on, about twenty, twenty-five minutes into the show, we’ll start talking about Newhart, and then ideally you get drifted off into dreamland. But we kinda ease you there. I guess, I don't know if I have the…I guess I have the patience to put an adult to sleep slowly. This is…I guess…is this irony or a paradox? But I just realized this. I don't have the patience to put a child to sleep quickly, but I do have the patience to slowly ease adults into bedtime.

 

Or maybe it’s just I’m better at that. I can tell kids bedtime stories in person, my own daughter and my siblings’ children, but it is a totally different game 'cause you're like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah, there was this thing; it was a bubble. What was its name? Bubble. Are all bubbles named Bubble? Okay, just listen. Can you…? Yeah, in this world they are. This was called Bubble’s World of Bubbles, and the bubbles were all shiny. Were there any non-shiny bubbles? There were, but actually, believe it or not, kid, I’m actually trying to start an adult podcast where I am patient for the listeners. In a different context, I could be patient for you, but I’m here for…if you're a kid listening to this show, I’m here to ease you into bedtime, too. Again, it’s a niche.

 

There may be kids that like…that do listen to this show nowadays, but I guess it’s just two different skills. But I never realized that I actually am patient with you, my dear listener. So, I’m glad you're here, and if you're new, this show does take some getting used to, which you may have already figured out. So, yeah, thanks for checking the show out, and here…we do this together by listeners who support the show directly, support our sponsors, support me with kindness. That’s what enables me to be here to support you, too. So, I’m really glad you're here, and here’s a couple ways we're able to do it for you twice a week.

 

INTRO: [INTRO MUSIC] Hey, are you up all night tossing, turning, mind racing? Trouble getting to sleep? Trouble staying asleep? Well, welcome. This is Sleep With Me, the podcast that puts you to sleep. We do it with a bedtime story. Alls you need to do is get in bed, turn out the lights, and press Play. I’m gonna do the rest. What I’m going to attempt to do is create a safe place where you can set aside whatever’s keeping you awake. That could be thoughts on your mind, things you're thinking about, thoughts about the past, the present, the future, yeah, things you're…thoughts. I have a lot of them. It could be feelings, physical sensations, so anything emotionally coming up for you or physically coming up for you. Last night I think I was getting…I had a…that’s not a triple-word score.

 

I don't know if I’ve ever had a triple-word score. I have dyslexia, so people don’t quite get it when I say, yeah, no, no, I’d rather not play Scrabble. I wish…I would love to be like a triple-word score or whatever. I could only do that with words that have two or three letters, though, and I don't know what your options are. I don't even know how a triple-word score works. Is that if you're using a compound…? I don't know. But a triple-nighttime score is when it’s thoughts, feelings, and physical sensations all at once, and one is more than enough for me. Or, I’d prefer zero, right? So, it could be one of those things, those areas of things that are keeping you awake.

 

It could be changes in time, temperature, routine, you could be traveling, you could have guests, you could be anticipating something, you could be going through something, you could have a different work schedule. The reason I run through that is so you get a sense you're not alone. Maybe that’s a better way to put it. I’ve tried to find ways to say it, but it’s like having a sense you're not alone, because I don't want to infringe on your space, right, and say, well, you're not alone. You say, well, tech…I don't know, 'cause I don't like being infringed upon in that way, either, and I don't like performance pressure.

 

That’s why a lot of the other stuff that’s supposed to help you fall asleep doesn't work for me, 'cause it involves this subtle performance pressure to me that I’m projecting onto the content, not that the content is necessarily requiring that. But for me, it’s like, well, what do you mean? I gotta imagine a magical armoire where my inner child’s toys are stored? I guess I could do that, but it wouldn't…then I’d be too distracted and then I’d be like, well, what if this person who’s narrating it…what are they gonna think about my magical armoire? ‘Cause I say, well, what does it look like? Well, no, I’m more concerned with what the magic could do for me and what toys…does it magically recreate new toys? I guess if you could remind me, maybe this is a episode we could do one day. Yeah, a magical armoire.

 

I can't text myself, so hopefully I’ll remember it, 'cause it does sound interesting. What was my point? Oh…oh, I’m here to make things feel less lonely in the deep, dark night. Something about performance pressure makes me feel lonely, or something about not being able to sleep…like, last night my dog Koa was right nearby, but I still just couldn't…I did eventually get to sleep, but then I woke up an hour later and I went through all that stuff. I know how that feels for me, and that’s just one piece of it, right? But I want you to know you're welcome here and that there’s other people here listening right now in parallel with you or in sync with you that are really hoping you could fall asleep and that this show can help you out.

 

Now, this podcast does not work for everybody, so just give it a few tries and see how it goes. But I really hope it can help you, and so do a lot of regular listeners, because you deserve a good night's sleep. You deserve a bedtime you don’t have to dread. You deserve a bedtime where you're getting the rest you need and you can relax and ease into sleep, so that your life is more manageable tomorrow…most of the time. Even for me, I follow all the stuff and I have a nice bedtime routine, but there’s sometimes it’s just like, it doesn't necessarily work all the time. But I kinda want to help you with your relationship with that. The whole idea of the show is that you have this one thing like an ally, I guess, in this case, or a bore-bud, is how we call it, a bore-friend, to be there to help you out in the deep, dark night.

 

So, yeah, that’s why I kinda go through all that stuff. The way the show works is I send my voice across the deep, dark night. I use lulling, soothing, creaky, dulcet tones, pointless meanders, and superfluous tangents. So, that means I go off topic, I get mixed up, I forget what I was talking about, then I ponder, then I repeat myself, my voice is not traditionally soothing. If you're new…your voice…you say, I don't think that you got the voice for…to put people to sleep. I say, yeah, I’m not really here to put you to sleep. I’m here to be your friend and talk to you. I’m here…I’m more of…I have a forgettable voice, a voice that’s not bad. You say, your voice is not bad, but it’s nothing like…your voice would not be considered buttery or melodious. I say, yeah, no, it’s creaky dulcets. You got that right.

 

Because I’m more like your…well, you wouldn't want a creaky friend at bedtime, so…but we’ve been calling them creaky dulcets for years because that’s what my voice is like, and it’s not traditionally soothing because it’s not supposed to be. It’s like, oh, that’s my friend, my imperfect friend that I barely have to listen to. It’s almost like if you had two imaginary friends. You say, the cool one that I play with, and then there’s the one that puts me to sleep. I could fill that role. This may be a new invention we're coming up with, a secondary imaginary friend. The person would be like, your son’s been telling me about his secondary imaginary friend. I’m a bit concerned. Oh no, no, that’s…it’s great. It’s just a friend that he kinda…well, shouldn’t he be working on his active listening skills with his imaginary friend?

 

Well, he is, actually, during the day, but at bedtime he’s got his other imaginary friend. It’s actually a podcast, by the way. It’s not…oh, it’s a podcast. Yeah, it’s called Second…it’s not…it’s called Sleep With Me, but if you read in-between the words, it’s Secondary Imaginary Friend. It’s the imaginary friend you don’t need to listen to, and you just kinda barely listen 'cause they go on and on and on. So, what else do you need to know? Most people when they get to the show, they're skeptical, they're doubtful, they're frustrated, they…you don’t necessarily need to like me and you may never like me or the show, and that’s all fine. That’s actually good. Some people get here without skepticism or doubt, and that’s cool, too. Some people like me right away or they say, oh, I get the nature of the show.

 

But you don’t need to because it’s my job to kinda see if this is gonna work for you. So, alls I ask is you give it two or three tries. Or if you're 100% sure right now, just go to sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou. I think even /nothanks even works, but that has other sleep podcasts and sleepy stuff on there, because you still deserve a bedtime that you could get the rest you need so your life is a little bit more manageable. So, yeah. What was my point in there? Oh, most people don’t like the show. At first it takes two or three tries.

 

That’s what most people that support the show on Sleep With Me+ said; hey, at first I didn’t like you and I didn’t come back for a year, or I gave it two or three tries and then on the third try I realized, oh, he’s serious about being a second…he takes his job as secondary imaginary friend…it’s like, no, no, I got…you're my Plan A, imaginary friend. He’s my Plan B. He’s…it’s not…he’s not a backup imaginary friend; he’s a niche imaginary friend. I mean, why…maybe this is something…this could be a whole new area of imaginary friendship, niche, imaginary friends.

 

I guess we’ve gotten two new Sleep With Me episodes out of this, but I don't even remember what they are, because usually…I used to text myself when I thought of…when the intro…and the idea came up in the intro, but now my phone’s recording it, so…niche, imaginary friends. I like it. I don't know what the other one was, but whatever. You'll let me know. Thank you. So, yeah, if you don’t like me, just give it a few tries. See how it goes. Or check out sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou. But the people that the show works for, it was kind of always a surprise to them. Even when it works for you right away, you say, whoa, somebody made something like this?

 

They’ve been doing it for over a decade? I had no idea it was out there and I didn’t even know I was looking for it ‘til I found it. I mean, I guess that’s what you'd say about your…you say, man, I had no idea I could have a secondary imaginary friend that’s only good for specific…what if you had one…? Here’s what I could have used, an imaginary friend that didn’t tell me what to do forcefully, but that somehow…I guess this would be more of a magical imaginary friend. They followed the rules and they could explain it to me in a way that kind of helped put me at ease. They say, well, this is why you have to raise your hand when you're…I say, oh, okay. It’s not that big…I know you want to rebel against that, but you could…well, let’s just…I’ll just raise my hand for us, and I’ll show you how. That would be cool.

 

So, I don't know. Maybe in the future we’ll have extra imaginary friends. Okay, so, getting distracted here, but that’s my job. So, most people don’t like the show. That’s one thing. Two, this is a podcast you can just barely listen to. I think we kinda covered that, like a TV on in the other room, like a out-of-focus picture, like something…some audio you're listening to but you're not quite engaged with, you're not quite paying attention to, but it’s distracting enough to put you at ease, to calm down something. I don't know, that’s just been my experience with stuff like this and that’s why I make the show, to say, okay, well, I’m kinda listening to that, and it kinda makes me feel not bad.

 

So just…but it does take some getting used to 'cause we have so much pressure during our day to have active listening and, whatever, pay attention, right? I’m not here to compete for your attention. I’m here to barely gain your attention, to barely engage you or only to have a little bit of it. So, yeah, a bit like misdirection, but I’m not that good at that, you know? Also, this is a sleep podcast…and this goes along with it; I’m not here to put you to sleep. There is no pressure to fall asleep with this show, no pressure at all. That’s why the shows are over an hour. That’s why we put out so much content in a variety of styles but in a consistent tone and manner, is so you don’t have to worry about falling asleep.

 

You don’t have to be like, is the episode over in twenty minutes or do I have to be asleep in thirty minutes? No. I could be here all night long if you need me, because there’s no pressure to fall asleep. If you can't sleep at all and you need something to listen to, you need a break, you woke up like I did last night after a hour, hour and a half, wide awake, and you need someone there for you, that’s what I’m here to do, but not in a way to keep you up, either; just to put you at ease and distract you from the stuff…I don't know, the other stuff.

 

So yeah, if you need a break during the day or if you're not listen…I’m here to the very end whether you're awake or asleep, whether you're listening to me or not, and that’s kinda what ends up working, and that’s the job of a bore-friend, a bore-bae, a bore-sib, a bore-bud, a bore-bie, a bores, a neigh-bore, a bore-bor, a Borlaf, a boreman in…chairman of the boreds or a boreman of the…yeah, I was chairman of the bored, but I realized I was calling myself boreman for, whatever, two or three years. I just realized that now. Boris…bore-cuz, a bore-bruh, your best bore-friend f’eva, for…actually, but for right now. I don't have to be your best bore-friend f’eva. I just like saying it. It amuses me because it catches the tone of the show. So, yeah, that’s what I’m here to do, to help you out in the deep, dark night if I can.

 

The only other thing I want to let you know about is the structure of the show. I’ve been doing the show a long time, and we're always open to feedback. If you want to get ahold of me, the contact form on our website’s the best way to do so, but our goal is to put out stuff on a regular basis, do the best we can — it takes a team of people to do this — and to be there for you, right? The way most people like to listen to the show…they like to listen to an ad-supported version they don’t pay for in a linear fashion, like in order, and a lot of people use a sleep timer or let the episode…their podcast player stops playing after one episode. Now, that doesn't mean there’s a wrong way to listen to the show, but that’s what we keep in mind with this free, ad-supported version.

 

So, the show starts off…all our shows ideally start off with a greeting because that’s important to make you feel welcome and so you say, oh, okay, I think I could check that show out. Then there’s support so that you don’t have to pay for the show, but if you prefer something without support or you just believe in what we're doing, then you could support the show. But if you prefer to listen to a ad-supported version, that’s what we strive to do, right, is you have a option. Then after that support is a long, meandering intro about fifteen to twenty-five minutes long, and I’ll explain what the purpose is. But if you don’t…if you prefer something without intros, we have a podcast, Bedtime Stories from Sleep With Me.

 

Or, yeah, if you support the show, you also get access to tons of story-only content as well as full, ad-free…as well as other kinds of more…more remixed versions of the show based on if you have…having a variety of ways to listen. So…but the intro also goes on and on and on not just to explain what the podcast is, not just because I feel like it has to be different every time. There should be a new intro for every episode, ideally, that it should follow a familiar path and structure but be surprising so that…I don't know, variety is one of the things I think that’s not just the spice of life. It’s what distracts whatever keeps me awake, and this is true. Even with my bedtime routine and stuff like that, if I try to…I gotta keep it…I don't know, both those things, consistent and familiar, but also have some sort of variety. So, I don't know.

 

But some people prefer repetition. So, some people listen to one episode over and over and over again, and that’s cool, too. But the intro also serves…the reason it’s fifteen to twenty-five minutes long is to ease you into bedtime while you're getting ready for bed, while you're winding down, or while you're in bed getting comfortable. There are a few percentage of people that fall asleep during the intro, or yeah, like I said, people that prefer story-only episodes. If you listen all night long, this may not be the best version for you, but it is a popular way to listen. But you'll kinda figure that out. If you're new, just kinda see how this version goes, and then you could try on the other versions of the show or use your podcast app to adjust how you want to listen via playlists and changing the settings in your podcast app.

 

That’s why I love making a podcast. Again, podcasts have kinda moved beyond that, but in a podcast app, the audio is very adjustable. But that’s why the intro goes on and on and on, is to ease you into bedtime. Then again there will be some support so that you don’t have to pay for the podcast if you don’t want to, and then there will be our bedtime story. Tonight it’ll be a Dreaming of Newhart episode. It’s a very different kind of TV-recap episode where we look at the sitcom Newhart from the lens that it was a dream held by the main character of The Bob Newhart Show, and what does that mean, what does each episode mean in that context? We don’t actually find out the meaning so much as ramble about it and see what AI dream interpreter will say. So, it’s kinda silly.

 

I think this is our last episode in Dreaming of Newhart for a little while just 'cause the platforms it was on changed. This is in January of 2025 when I’m recording this. You'll be listening to this in the spring, but we can return to it, too, next…later in 2025 or 2026, too. Let me know if you love these kind of episodes, 'cause it’s important for your positive voice to be heard if you really like something. It’s good for me to know that, and then we’ll do our best to see what’s possible.

 

But what’s mainly possible and what I’m mainly here to do is just keep you company and be here for you as a goofy friend who’s talking not about nothing, but about nothing that’s really that important. So, I’m glad you're here. I work really hard. I yearn and I strive. I really want to help you fall asleep, and thanks so much for coming by. A team of people work on this show 'cause we yearn and strive. We really want to help you fall asleep. So, thanks again for coming by, and here’s a couple ways we're able to do this for you regularly. Thanks.

 

Alright everybody, welcome to Dreaming of Newhart. This is our…this will be the last episode of Newhart for Dreaming of Newhart for a little while. We're taking a break. Usually we take a break after a certain number of episodes, anyway. But also it went off of streaming, so…here in the US, at least. So, it’s a good time to take a break. We're gonna be changing around the stuff…how we do it in the summertime, anyway. So, yeah, I hope you enjoy these…this series, and hopefully we’ll be back at some point in the future. If this is your first episode, don't worry, I’ll tell you what you basically need to know, and then you could catch up on the other episodes or sleep through them, whatever you want.

 

Dreaming of Newhart is a TV-recap, dream-interpretation series, which…I don't know has necessarily been done before, or it needs to be done outside of this, but…so, Bob Newhart, the great comedian and actor who joined…who crossed the rainbow bridge not too long ago, he had a sitcom in the sixties, seventies…I’m not good with…no, it’s probably the seventies, called The Bob Newhart Show. Then in the eighties he had a sitcom called Newhart. When Newhart concluded its run, the final episode kind of made it clear that the whole series of Newhart was a dream had by the character. So, Dick Loudon was who Bob Newhart played in Newhart, and Robert Hartley is who Bob Newhart played in The Bob Newhart Show. Talk about perfect for a sleep podcast, right? So, the…it wasn’t…it’s not a theory.

 

This isn't like a internet…this was before the internet. On the show, at the end, they said…it was like, oh, this was all a dream had by Robert Hartley from The Bob Newhart Show. He dreamt…dreamed of all the seasons of Newhart. So, we look at the…through that lens as if Robert Hartley is meeting with someone whose voice sounds a lot like mine, discussing his dreams, and also using a AI assistant for dream interpretation, which results in multiple layers of randomness and confusion. So, if you're confused already, you're in the right place. So, yeah, without further ado, I’m gonna turn things over to Robert and the dude he works with.

 

Hey Bob, come on in. I know we're gonna take a break from working together. I know you feel like…I’ll just…yeah, I’d just like to talk about my dreams. Okay, Bob. Yeah, let’s get right into it, then. Yeah, so, the…it…I’ve had…I’ll be honest; I’ve had a long week and I have no idea why my dream…how this dream I’ve been having could be connected to it, but it has…I do want to say it’s been great working together and trying to get a sense…I think I really enjoy having a repetitive dream of being a Vermont innkeeper, and I really…part of the reason…I just don’t want to lose that, you know? I understand, Bob. Yeah, but you don’t…do you have repetitive dreams like this? Not as developed as yours, Bob, no.

 

Yeah, so…but yeah, this week…so, I guess I’m…the reason I’m rushing to get into my dream is just because this week was so full of growth opportunity, personally and professionally, and so…but I had this dream. I can't connect it at all. Okay, Bob. Why don’t you tell me about the dream you had? Okay, so, the dream started with Joanne, my wife in my dream, and we were in the inn having breakfast. Anyway, I don't want to get into…but so, my wife was telling me that I needed to eat my figs. At first it was quiet, right? It was just…the whole staff was eating breakfast together. But I had hidden my figs under my pancakes, and my wife said, you gotta eat your figs. Then everybody said, you gotta eat your figs, Dick. Who doesn't eat their figs? They're great for…they taste great and they're great…I said, I don't want to eat figs.

 

Never had them. Never want them. No thank you. I didn’t like the pressure at all, and I just…then all of a sudden, Kirk comes in, breathless. We thought he was joking around 'cause he said, oh boy, I’m so out of breath. So, we said, what are you out of breath about? He said, my cafe. Then he started singing the song, Don’t Cry Out Loud. I want to say it’s by Laura Branigan, but I don't think it is. I think…but I don't know who sings it. But…and he kept saying that. Then he was talking about…that livestock had gotten loose in his…he runs a cafe giftshop called The Minute Man Cafe. He said livestock got loose in his cafe while he was out…I don't know what he was doing, where…if he was…when he wasn’t paying attention or wasn’t there, and they ran around his cafe, ate everything, knocked everything over, used it like a WC.

 

We said, wow, that sounds terrible, Kirk. I can see why you're out of breath. But don't worry, we’ll help you get this resolved and fixed. Pretty sure he said, I don't know what I’m gonna do. We said, well, you could start with calling people and then getting things cleaned up. Then a honeymooner showed up at the inn, which is pretty common, and they wanted…the honeymooner…the gentleman wanted to carry the wife up the stairs, and he did. My wife in the dream said, how come you don’t do that? I said, well, I’m a pragmatist. That’s why I don't do it. Then someone came in the inn who was supposed to help Kirk with his livestock thing, and he wanted to know what I knew about the livestock getting loose in Kirk’s cafe.

 

‘Cause he was like, yeah, we cover this kind of stuff, so we should be able to get everything…him compensated and his place cleaned up. But then alls I could do is talk in tongue twisters. It was so strange. I kept saying, fib, fib, fib, flub…fib, fib…fib, fib…I had ‘fig’ on my brain, too. Fig, fib, flub, flub, flubber, flipper, flapper, fluffer nutter or something, over and over again. The guy said, are you gonna help me with Kirk or what? Then I…every time I tried to speak to him, I just said stuff like that, that was like a tongue…my tongue was twisted by a tongue…fib, fig, flub…and then the guy said, forget it. I guess you're not gonna help your friend. You're too busy fib-flubbing. Then the guy with…the newlyweds kept carrying one another around the inn.

 

Then we had…then it was another dream about having breakfast or part…we're having breakfast again, and it was like, okay, if you don’t eat figs, you gotta have oats. I was very frustrated but I was willing to try it. Then Kirk shows up. He’s like, what happened, man? You were supposed to…why were you talk…can you talk to me right now? I said, I can talk to you right now. He said, how come when the guy that was supposed to help me get compensated for my cafe showed up, you only talked…you said…and Kirk’s…pulled out a piece of paper. He said, fig, fig, flub, flub, fluver. I said, no, I said fig, fib, fib, fibber, flub, fluffer, I believe. He said, well, why would you do that? I said, I don't know. It just…I couldn't say any other words other than words that started with F. He said, I can think of some words.

 

I’m frustrated with you, factually. I said, oh, well, those are words, but they're not like tongue-twister words. He said, I can't believe this, man. They're…he goes…the guy said, if that’s what your neighbors are like, I don't know if we should help you. Maybe you should relocate. I said, well, is there any way I can help you now? I’m sorry. He said, yeah, they want to take me down to their office where they're gonna have me wear this magical robe and hat. They said that’ll give me insight into how the live…'cause they still want to know how the livestock got into my store, and I don't know. So, I’m happy to go down there. So, why don’t you come with me? ‘Cause I don't feel like…I don't feel like…if I can't find a parking spot, then I’m gonna be…and I said, okay, I’ll drive you down there.

 

So, we went down there, and then they put…they said, yeah, this is this magical robe and hat, and we're gonna put it on you. It’ll give us insight into what happened, and then that should get everything resolved. Then they did it on Kirk and they said, this is magic. There’s some sort of…something blocking our magic, or maybe our magic’s inoperable. Kirk said, I got no idea what you're talking about. They said, are you sure you're not a magic-user? He said, I’m sure. Then they said, sir, could you try it out just to see what’s going on? I said, I guess so. If it helps my buddy, that’s fine. So, they had me wear it, and then I started mewing like a cat, I think. Or, I don't know, but it was…seemed to work on me.

 

Then they said, okay, well, we still don’t know how the livestock…the one catch is like, we need to know how the livestock got into your cafe so we can prevent it, take preventative measures. Are you sure you didn’t leave the door open, Kirk? He said, no, I’m sure I didn’t leave the door open. They said, well, as far as we know, no livestock have opposable thumbs. He said, what does that have to do with anything? They said, well, the only way to get into a cafe is with opposable thumbs, unless your door is wide open. Kirk said, you don’t…I don't need magic to tell me that. They said, okay, well, we're gonna keep looking into it. Why don’t you head on out? Kirk…when we head out, he goes, we gotta get to the bottom of this, Dick. He goes, somebody’s putting livestock in my store.

 

Now, I know Kirk, so I said, are you sure you didn’t leave the door open? He said, I’m 100% almost positive. I said, well, that’s what they're…were you blocking their magic? He goes, no, I…he goes, I’m magic resistant, but I’m not…it’s just a natural thing I have. I said, what? He goes, yeah, I’m naturally magic…I’m naturally…I’m naturally magically resistant, 'cause if I was magically magical…magically resistant, that wouldn't make any sense. Then I said, magically magically…magically magically…I said, that doesn't make any sense. You're right. He said, right? By way of magic, I’m magically resistant. That’s another way of saying it. It still isn't…not possible. I said, well, usually it’s more of a counterspell. Kirk said, it’s just who I am. It’s just the way it is, baby. I said, okay, well…and I said, what do you want to do?

 

He goes, I want to go down to this pub, the one pub in town. He goes, 'cause maybe somebody knows something. I said, well, this doesn't sound like a great idea. He said, let’s go. We gotta get to the bottom of this. I said, this already feels like we're at the bottom, Kirk. So, we go to this pub, the town bar. It’s a bar, a pub. I guess it serves food, so it’s…I don't know if that makes it a pub or a tavern. Kirk says, I’m here to offer a reward. Well, first he looks around; he tries to see if anybody has any livestock. I say, this is a livestock-free bar, and your cafe should be…is probably one, too. He goes, okay. But then he says, yeah, I have an announcement to make.

 

Apparently Kirk has quite the reputation not just at my inn but everywhere, 'cause he says, yeah, I want to know…I’m offering a reward for whoever let livestock into my cafe. Everyone laughs, 'cause they already knew about it, I guess. Then they cheer; they start going…it was…I mean, it was a dream, but they were cheering for the livestock like it was a sports team. Even though it’s really long, they said, give me an L. Give me an I. Give me a V. Give me an E. Give me an S. Give me a T. Give me an O. Give me a C. Give me a K. What does it spell? Then everybody goes, livestock. They cheered, and Kirk was like, we…this is embarrassing. Oh, also, I forgot that Kirk or George…this didn’t seem important when I was telling your assistant, but he had…in the dream, he wanted to learn how to sew.

 

Then there’s this whole thing about…Kirk came in, still upset about the livestock, leaving the…did he leave the door open? Then George is trying to tell him to count his blessings. He says, whoa, whoa, whoa, man. Then we kinda said…then it got really confusing 'cause we were talking about…we all started telling him these stories of…so we said, do you have a way of remembering if you closed the door behind you? He said, yeah, it’s like common sense. Then I said, haven't you ever heard the story of the sheep that left the barn open? Then somebody else said, no, no, no, it’s a goat that left the barn open. Then George is like, no, no, no, the boy who opened the barn. Then somebody else was like, no, no, no, it was the barn that opened the door.

 

We're trying to tell him this story, which is supposed to be the moral of the story, of like, always have a way to remember if you shut the door or not before there was technology that could tell you that. They go back and forth, like, I already had the door open. Let me…who…? Then Kirk goes, who let the dogs out? They go, no, no, no, that’s a song in the future. Would you believe that those were trained by the…? Those dogs that are in the future, they were trained by the…one of the guys from Saturday Night Live, I think. They say, what’s that? I said, I don't know, 'cause it’s a dream, you know. I said, what is going on here? Then we go back and forth. He said, well, the moral of the story is always double-check your door is closed.

 

Kirk said, they're not gonna pay me to clean up my place because they think I left the door open, and they said if their magical detection system could have seen in me, they would have known if I closed the door or not. Then we're still telling the…I don't know if it was…was it the barn that took a walk? Wasn’t it that story? Was it ever on that sleep podcast, the barn that opened the door? I think it was the barn door that opened the barn. I said, that doesn't make any sense, either. Kirk even says, is this…a point to any of this? I say, yeah, it always…we just told you the point two minutes ago. He said, is this some sort of metaphorical discussion? We said, loosely it is, because we're having trouble coming up with a comp…a metaphor that you can comprehend.

 

Then Joanne said, oh yeah, that’s it; it’s henny, hen, hen…henny, hen, hen, hen. Then I said, doory, door, door, doory, door, door. Then George said, goaty, goat, goat, goaty, goat, goat. Then…not Stephanie but her cousin said, sheepy…shooba. We all start talking like that. Kirk’s like, what? Then he said, can I use your phone? I need to call my mother. So, he called his mother, and then he said, mother, these people here are talking nonsense, and no one believes if I shut the…did you…why…how come you never taught me a method of making sure the door is shut? She said, just common sense. Everybody shuts the door…what, are you a barn door? I said…he said, what do you mean? She said, don’t you know the story of the barn door? He goes, no. She goes, whaty, whaty, what, buh…? Then he hangs up the phone.

 

That was…then I woke up. Oh, interesting, Bob. I was really thinking that Kirk is a edgy character in my dreams. Okay, Bob. Well, do you want to talk about my…I had my assistant have the same dream as you. Do you want to go through that, then your…? I know you had a rough week. So, should we go through my assistant’s version of your dream and then the interpretation and then kinda go through it? Yeah, that sounds good. That’s fine. Okay, so, my assistant had a dream which they entitled The Boy Who Cried Goat. Okay, great. In this dream, it’s you. In your dream, you run an inn and it’s bustling with quirky quests, and there’s a backdrop of whimsy. Huh, interesting. I don't know how you have a backdrop of whimsy.

 

Okay, and first what happens is a young boy comes in from the town and he claims he’s seen a goat wandering the halls of your inn in the evenings. Everybody says, this is the boy who cried goat? Then after a time in the inn, everybody starts noticing things at night, like a goat walking, your tin cans chewed up, even those goat sounds. Like, not baa-ing, but whatever the goat makes. Then everybody turns into Sherlock Holmes, looking for goats. But at first everybody thinks it’s something else, but the boy’s like, yeah, that’s the goat, the goat of the night. But no one’s seen a goat. We say, if there was a goat, there would be goat droppings, kid. He said, what do you think the tin can is? So, then you, Dick Loudon, decide to stay up and try to catch the goat, get the boy’s goat, as they say.

 

You discover it’s not just any goat, but it’s the goat from the last time you dreamed, Larry, Darryl, and Darryl’s goat, whose name escapes me. The goat had been sneaking back into the inn 'cause it missed you. But instead of a goat…sending the goat away, you start to host a goat night at the inn, which is kinda like a conference about goats, but festive, where you talk about…you have goat experts…Vermont’s greatest goats kinda thing. Then you learn about trust, because the boy gets…he becomes the symbol of the goat knight, 'cause his goat was…it wasn’t his goat that got gotten, but you know what I’m saying. The goat becomes kinda the mascot of the inn. Oh, okay. So, that was the dream my assistant simulated in your honor. Great. That would be interesting, I guess.

 

Okay, so, I talked to my assistant, Bob, and I wanted to run through my assistant’s discoveries here. So, the first thing was about hiding your figs under your pancakes and not eating your figs. Yeah, my assistant said a Freudian interpretation would be resistance and acceptance. The figs gotta be representative of something in your waking life but…that’s good for you but you refuse to accept. This could be emotional or physical aspects of your life. Who knows? You're unconsciously avoiding something. Jung would say the figs are representative of part of your shadow, some element of your inner self that you're unwilling…you're unaware of. Now, your wife’s insistence might be the conscious mind trying to reconcile these ignored or repressed aspects.

 

Yeah, a modern interpretation might be that you're avoiding something that you might think is unpleasant even though it’s beneficial. It could also be Virgo’s influence. Traits of meticulousness and stubborness could be at play between what’s good for you and your personal preferences. Now, when we get into the kinda…the out-of-box ideas, Bob, this is where I feel like we really excel. The figs kind of were…could be a time capsule. What if each fig on your plate was a flash back to a past event? Your refusal to eat them symbolizes a reluctance to visit past decisions. Huh, that kinda…okay, I can hear that, yeah. What if it’s some sort of magical realism; the figs have the power to alter reality? Each fig could alter your aspects of your life or through your perceptions, like figs as…yeah, yeah.

 

What if the figs talk and they offer advice or wisdom, turning breakfast into a surreal conversation about life? Well, that’d be strange. What if the figs were a humorous scene of negotiation, where figs are currency, or what if each pancake with a hidden fig becomes a portal to another world, with adventures to teach you lessons about life and happiness? Interesting. What if there was rebellion in Flavor Town and the figs…they become sentient figs and they lead a uprising with other breakfast foods? That would…I was unaware I lived in Flavor Town, but I don't know. Who would they be rising against, Guy? I don't know, Bob. That’s a great question. Then the thing with Kirk singing, Don’t Cry Out Loud, and then the livestock…okay, Freud would say this is related to chaos and control.

 

Livestock are uncontrollable forces or chaotic aspects of your subconscience, and then structured or commercial areas of your life are the cafe. It could be a shadow coming up, invading the livestock aspects of the shadow, unacknowledged or wild parts of your psyche encroaching on public or conscience parts. It could also just be overwhelm; maybe too many responsibilities, and Kirk’s dramatic entrance intensifies these emotions. Huh, I kind of identify with that one. What about some out-of-the-box things? What if there’s a musical message in Kirk’s song choice which offers a clue? Don’t Cry Out Loud…maybe this is about keeping emotions in check or masking feelings and challenging situations. Oh, whoa. Okay.

 

What if livestock is a symbol of the things that need attention, like tasks you've forgotten about or relationships? Okay. It could be a surreal rescue. You and Kirk lead a surreal, musical rescue to save the cafe from metaphorical livestock which could represent…maybe Kirk’s having a tough time making ends meet. It could also be a historical reenactment, the livestock harking back to a bygone era, reflecting traditional versus modern challenges in your life. What if it was some sort of animal leadership? The livestock are there and it becomes a whimsical governance setting where they lay out the governance of the area and it becomes a reflection on cast management. Okay. It could also be transformational magic. What if the livestock mysteriously transform into people that will patronize the cafe?

 

That hints at the transformative potential of embracing chaos. Okay, a couple of those did help me, I guess. Okay, then my assistant really pointed out the carrying up of the inn, the carrying-over-the-threshold tradition. Let’s see, Freudian…it could be possessiveness and protection, a desire for control or protectiveness in your relationship, or worry about dependency and support. Oh, wow. It could be a anima projection from Jung. Your feminine aspect could be an elevation of the anima within yourself, a growing of sensitivity and nurturing, commitment and responsibility, maybe the themes of commitment and responsibility that come with it. It could be burdens or joys of being in a committed relationship. Okay, what about out-of-the-box stuff? What if it was levitation and not caring?

 

The groom is…and the bride are…the groom is levitating the bride. This symbolizes a relationship that defies traditional boundaries. Okay. Then also in the same vein, what if it’s an invisible bond and she’s floating? I guess which is similar to levitating, representing an invisible support system that exists in relationships. Okay. So, this is really…are you just humoring me, Bob? No, no, this is good. Okay, it could be about an internal honey…an eternal honeymoon. What if each door in your inn is a different honeymoon destination, and each destination reflects a journey through various stages of a relationship? Okay. It could be musical choreography. What if instead of carrying, then they start to dance and the other guests join in and it becomes a musical about romantic commitment?

 

Those sound like more dreams than interpretation. They do, Bob, but my assistant’s supposed to be out there. What if it’s a historical echo? This is a historical tradition of ancient marriage rites. I guess it is, yeah. What if it’s cosplay, like they dress in different…as different figures from the past as they move through the inn, representing a journey of their past relationships to the present? Okay, I guess not so much, but yeah. Alright, let’s do the tongue-twister thing where you can only speak…so, communication, frustrations from Freud. Maybe this is some internal conflict about communication? Could be. Maybe there’s something you're struggling to express clearly or you're misunderstood.

 

Jung might look at it as there’s a disconnect between your inner self and how you express yourself in the world, and the tongue twisters might symbolize complex thoughts or emotions you're finding hard to articulate. Okay. What if it’s about social situations, especially when you're collaborating, and some concern with that? Okay. Okay, out-of-the-box ideas; what if this is some sort of magical language and there’s a mischievous spirit trying to make every attempt to communicate into a puzzle? It could be beings from another world that are testing your adaptability by altering your speech patterns and then seeing your reaction to communication barriers. Interesting. Could it be a mystical spell gone wrong? Maybe you were trying to cast a spell and then…or Kirk was, and then it was miscast? Could be.

 

What if this is your path to become a riddle-creator and each tongue twister you speak is a riddle that others must solve, and those riddles help repair the…repair Kirk’s restaurant? Could be a dimensional speech shift where you shift into a parallel dimension where language is only tongue twisters, or wordplay wizardry. What if there’s a ancient book of wordplay that was only written in tongue twisters? Okay. This kinda goes into this dream of the magical suit or magical robe and hat. Freud would say about that…truth and deception. This could be a internal conflict about honesty and deceit, and the magical attire is how you gauge truthfulness in yourself and others or being perceived as truthful. Wow, Freud and your assistant are on it tonight.

 

Could be Jung; archetypal symbols of truth, and your experience in the dream could signify a journey towards self-discovery and confronting your own truths, or it could be integrity and authenticity and trying to maintain authenticity in difficult situations. Maybe Kirk’s counter to the magic reflects a perceived or real ability to resist external pressure. Could be part of a truth-revealing ritual. I guess it was, but that goes beyond factual honesty, something deeper. Could be a magical dance-off, 'cause Kirk countered the magic, and maybe he’s going against personal power and societal expectations. Maybe there’s some sort of external council of elders who use these magical garments not just for truth but for…to discover who you are. 

 

Transformational challenge…maybe where you confront your own mirrored truths in a dreamlike challenge. Could be some sort of truth discovery. I guess those…or portals to the past. My assistant does love portals. What if they're portals to the past? Yeah, it’s strange; your assistant hasn’t come up with any that it’s like a simulation or anything. I did like, though, the beings from another world testing things. Yeah, so did I. Okay, then there’s the bar and the bar cheering. Maybe it’s…Freud would say it’s repressed desires and social acceptance, approval-breaking norms versus the chaos of livestock. Maybe shadow and the collective unconscience. Maybe the bar is the shadow aspect of the community. Primal, unexpected parts are expressed, and maybe the cheering is just the release of repressed desire.

 

But maybe it’s about group dynamics and conformity. You know, the influence of peer approval, human tendency to conform to group norms. It could be mystical revelations; the bar is a gateway to a mystical world, time-loop paradox…there you go, Bob. This…what if this is part of a time loop and patrons are aware and cheer because they're enjoying the spectacle? It could be some sort of spirit celebration. Maybe there’s other residents that are visible only in the bar from other time periods, and they're cheering the livestock because it’s a symbolic act against modern constraints and rebellious. What if the animals, again, take over and have governance? Could be an interactive play where you and Kirk are characters and the bar patrons are actors who cheer, and it’s just a scripted event.

 

Maybe the bar is a psychic hotspot where emotional echoes are…from past events are felt. The cheering is just an echo from the past. Okay. Then the mixed-up story at the end…okay, the mixed-up story…miscommunication, and maybe it represents some sort of communication barrier or concerned about communications or being misunderstood. Okay. Could be the unconscience and archetypes. The collective unconscious is distorted here. Maybe it’s a communal reflection on truth and integrity. Maybe it’s about social dynamics and confusion, if there’s a group dynamic that led to confusion or lack of clarity or failed attempts to convey important lessons or morals. It could also be part of a storytelling contest with twists, where each person adds a twist to a story, like something you just do at the inn.

 

Could be a memory warp field; a mystical field causes a temporary memory warp, and then no one can keep their story straight. You could have all been inside a linguistic jumble machine which is a device that was invented at the inn to scramble words as they're spoken to…just to be amusing. What if the inn was an echo chamber where words…there was a strange echo effect where words are just bouncing and distorting? This reflects the distortion of messages in the media or public discourse. Could be a parable of misinterpretation. This is good, though, Bob. Each person’s confused version reflects their own personal biases and misconceptions, and the inn is a stage for exploring subjective realities.

 

Wow, that hits home. Could be a mystical realism rewrite where we're transforming history. Wow, that’s great. Yeah. Alright, Bob, why don’t you tell me about your week and we can kinda see where we're at? Okay. So, I was just finishing up with a client who collected Twinkies, and we had been working together 'cause she spent a lot of money…you mean Hostess Twinkies, Bob? I do. She had…she found something…it became a talisman for her. She was collecting Twinkies, spending a lot of money on Twinkies. She would also…she didn’t consume the Twinkies but she would consume them in ways like squeeze them, hold them, buy them, see…open them, and have them around. She would go to a store and buy all the Twinkies.

 

So, we had worked our way through it. I don't want to get into her personal journey, but she was finally living…had found what the Twinkies were doing…the Twinkie collection was doing for her. Then she said, wow, I never thought I’d…she replaced her thing…I didn’t realize it ‘til the end of the session; she replaced her thing with Twinkies for a thing for me. She said, I’d like to spend a lot more time with you, Robert. Dr. Hartley, she called me. She used the L word and…yeah. I explained to her…I said, yeah, well, this is this thing where this happens in these kind of sessions, right, because this isn't real. It feels real and I’m really here, but I’m also doing my job, which is to listen to you and help you with this Twinkie stuff. So, you may have these feelings, but it’s something called transference. She was like, well, no.

 

Then she got…and then…then I had another client. So, I was kind of put in this tough spot, right? I said, what am I gonna do? I said, well, I have an opening after my next session. She said, I need to deal with this now. I said, I’m sorry, but I already have a client waiting. Then I realized Jerry could give her a brush and a shine. So, I brought her over to Jerry’s office. He said, yeah, that’s no problem. Jerry…did you know Jerry makes his own retainers? He makes…what do you call those? Not boutique, but I thought everything was made somewhere else. But I went in and he was working on it. He said, look at this retainer. It’s a work of art. Bespoke retainers; I didn’t know Jerry did that, but…so, then she came back and she…I said, well, how’d it go? Your teeth look great. She said, yeah, I still have these feelings, though.

 

Jerry heard everything and he’s like, this is awkward. I said, no, it’s just transference. Totally normal. I said, okay, do you think you understand now? She said, I think so. So, she went home and then I went home, and I was wiped 'cause it was quite the journey, 'cause…especially 'cause I said, wow, this is really wrapping up. So, I got home. Emily was stuck in a turtleneck and I had to help her get her head through this turtleneck, and then I was like, I’m really hungry and really tired. She said, okay, well, we're going out to eat at this new restaurant. I had no reservations. When I told him I was calling on behalf of Dr. Hartley, they found a open table. Then the phone rings and it’s this client, and she says, yeah, I’m…she goes, I’m at the store buying up all the Twinkies. I said, don’t buy up all the Twinkies.

 

She said, well, I have strong feelings for you. I said, yeah, but this is not real love. Emily heard all this 'cause I was talking openly, and she was not happy about it, obviously. I guess we hadn't dealt with this before as a couple. So, then she said, what is this? I said, yeah, it’s common, Emily. Don't worry about it. I said, you were a teacher. Even though your students, they have a different sort of transference for you…then Emily said, okay, well, maybe I’m just feeling jealous. Can you tell me more about her? I said, well, she collects…I was helping her with collecting Twinkies. She goes, oh, wow. Okay, well…I said, don't worry about it. Let’s go out to dinner. I said, I’m in a relationship with you, not her. I love you, Emily. You're my wife. So, whatever. Then this was…but then the next…I think it was the next day.

 

Or, no, it was Monday. So, I guess that was on Friday. The weekend; nothing happened, then Jerry was supposed to come over to my house after work. We were gonna watch football together. He comes over and we're ready to leave, and then I got a briefcase…we're ready to go to my house, and Miss Walker calls. She’s like…she’s…or she was there? I can't even remember anymore. I guess she was…she’s like, can I come in right now? I’m beside myself with my feelings. This isn't transference. So, I said, oh, man. Then Howard was supposed to come over. I said, listen, Jerry, just go home and check in with Emily. I’ll be there. I’ll just wrap…I gotta try to help this person. Emily was making Knackwurst, beans, and sauerkraut.

 

Then I call home, and Howard’s already there, and then Emily’s…I’m like, it’s Mrs…it’s my client. Emily’s like, I’m trying to talk to Howard and Jerry about this. I need to talk to somebody for me. I’m having feelings about this now. She’s like, your friends aren't very good to talk to, 'cause Howard said, this is a common thing that…and whatever. So…and they're trying to cheer me up, so you need to get home. So, then I’m like, okay, let me just try…Emily, I’m trying to do my job, too. I guess I kinda feel bad about it. I was…in some sense I was putting my profession…I was having trouble with these boundaries. It’s okay, Bob. So, then I get home, and as soon as I get home, it’s awkward. So, Howard and Jerry are like, goodnight, we're going home. Emily’s not happy. She says, it’s either me or the client.

 

I say, yeah, but…no, no, no, it’s not me or the client 'cause there will be…this is gonna happen again, Emily. Again, I guess I tried…I brought my work home with me in more ways than one, 'cause she says, no, it’s either me or the client. I can't take this. I said, well, you got to, because this is gonna happen again. We go back and forth and I say, it’s just transference. This is…it’s happened before and…she goes, what do you mean it’s happened before? I say, yeah, this is a common thing. It’s kinda like I’m a rockstar. She goes, well, I didn’t marry a rockstar. I said, listen…I said, I want you to…maybe you should…and I kinda said that she needed to work on herself. So, then she was not happy with me. So, I guess these dreams are really trying to tell me my communication is lacking.

 

‘Cause then what happened was Emily…we were supposed to eat lunch together. I forgot that it was the same time as another appointment with this client. But the good news is the client had kinda gotten through it. So, then Emily, she came out of my office and then I said, oh, it’s nice for you two to meet one another. She said, yeah, yeah, I’m doing great. I’m really happy. I have no Twinkies and my marriage is going great. So, she had gotten to the other side of the transference, but I guess I was kinda left with this sense that…Emily was pleased because in a sense it was fixed, but I think in the dream I was like…that my communication was lacking. Yeah, this whole thing was a little bit of chaos. When it happens it is chaos 'cause it just comes outta nowhere, and it’s like, did I leave the door open?

 

Kinda like I was like Kirk, or was the door closed and someone let the livestock in? But where I could have done better is my communication with my wife about this whole thing. It seems like…are you sleeping? Oh, sorry, Bob. Yeah, I was…I fell asleep. Okay, that’s okay. Yeah, I could just finish talking and then you rest and then I’ll rest. Okay, Bob, that’s great. Okay, so, yeah, I was just thinking that in a sense, the dream was saying to me, maybe you could do a little bit better, Bob, and maybe just take some time and practice your communication at home, but less controlling of my wife and more letting her on her journey, but also just accepting these are ups and downs that are not necessarily great, but I just have to roll with them. So, yeah, I guess I’m putting myself to sleep, too. Goodnight, everybody.

 

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Dreaming of Newhart

 

Imaginary Friends 

https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/imaginary-friends

https://imaginationplayground.com/the-what-why-significance-of-imaginary-friends/

https://www.creativechild.com/articles/view/the-psychology-of-imaginary-friends

 

Carrying over the threshold tradition

https://www.nortonsweddings.com/Wedding-Traditions-carry-bride-over-threshold

https://www.theknot.com/content/carrying-the-bride-over-the-threshold

https://www.theamericanwedding.com/blog/2008/origins-of-carrying-the-bride-over-the-threshold/

 

Retainers

https://www.newsmilelife.com/blogs/news/the-evolution-of-retainers-from-ancient-times-to-modern-practices?srsltid=AfmBOooA14Y4MpDy677jrQF8yIPGNZX2SxR4ZUGrv2c0euuvuvTHM0Mu

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41415-021-2955-6

https://sportingsmiles.com/the-history-of-orthodontics/?srsltid=AfmBOopvxCp04ae7LWR70t9q9-146-qCpWIkJEGTJE6R3yr_oJZYzmCl

 

Shows lost in the streaming either

https://www.avclub.com/tv-shows-pulled-from-streaming-services-1850249665

https://www.primetimer.com/features/which-tv-shows-are-finding-new-life-after-untimely-cancellation

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/minx-starz-peak-tv-death-david-zaslav-streaming-hbo-max-netflix-1234790127/

 

DOWN TO BUSINESS

A dreamy visit to a Vermont inn

Technically a bed and breakfast

Is breakfast always included in a bed and breakfast?

I”m kind of a friend but more of a service

Dreaming of Newhart

Is this an irony or a paradox?

Bedtime stories for children are always different from bedtimes stories for adults

Bubble’s World of Bubbles

 

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INTRO

Thoughts, I have a lot of them

I don’t know that I’ve never had a triple word score

I’ve never been good at Scrabble

Triple Nighttime Score is thoughts, feelings, and physical sensations all at once

Getting a sense you’re not alone

I feel subtle performance pressure from so much sleep media

The magical armoire where my inner child’s toys are stored

I really hope this can help you

You deserve to not dread bedtime

An ally, a borebud

Creaky Dulcets

My imperfect friend I barely have to listen to

Secondary Imaginary Friend

I”ll be your SIF

I’m just there to drone you to bed

sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou

A whole new era of imaginary friends

Niche Imaginary Friendship

I wonder if we’ll remember these

An imaginary friend who follows the rules for you

I’m just here to barely engage you

I’m not good enough at misdirection

Chairman of the Bored but also the Boreman

Your best bore friend for right now

How most people listen to the show

Explaining the structure of the show

Having a variety of ways to listen

I have to have variety but some people prefer repetition

Tonight is Dreaming of Newhart

We never really decipher the meaning of these dreams

Thanks for coming by

 

STORY

We’re gonna take a break because the show went off of streaming

I hope you’ve enjoyed the series

TV Recap Dream Interpretation Series

Explaining the show

The dream situation wasn’t a theory, it was actually true

Deciphering Robert Hartley’s dreams

Let’s turn it over to Robert and the dude he works with

Welcome Bob, to our last session for a while

Talking about dreams

It’s been great working together

I do enjoy the repetitive dream of being a Vermont innkeeper

I don’t want to lose that

This week was so full of growth opportunity

But I can’t connect it to my dream at all

Explaining the dream

We’re having breakfast in the inn

Joanne says I need to eat my figs

You gotta eat your figs, Dick

I don’t want to

Kirk comes in, breathless

Then Kirk starts singing a song

Livestock got loose in his cafe

They ruined his cafe

We’ll help Kirk resolve this and clean up

Honeymooners showed up at the inn

My wife asks why I never carry her up the stairs

Someone comes to help Kirk with the livestock situation

But I could only talk in tongue twisters

I’m too busy Fib Flubbing

The newlyweds kept carrying one another around the inn

If I can’t have figs, I’ll need to eat oats

Kirk is mad I could only speak in tongue twisters

I get defensive

Kirk is frustrated with me

I try to make it up to Kirk

Kirk says he has to go down to their office and wear a magical robe and hat

Kirk wants me to drive him down there

Putting on a magical robe and hat

Something is blocking their magic

I try it on to unblock the magic

Then I started mewing like a cat

As far as we know, no livestock have opposable thumbs

Opposable thumbs is the only way to get into a cafe

They’ll keep looking into it

Who’s putting livestock in Kirk’s store

He’s 100% almost positive he didn’t just leave the door open

Kirk is naturally magic resistant

Magically Resistant

By way of magic, he’s magically resistant

They have to go to the town pub to dig deeper

Kirk offers a reward

A Livestock-Free Bar

Kirk has quite the reputation everywhere

Everyone laughs at Kirk’s reward offer

They’re cheering for the livestock

George wanted to learn how to sew, also, by the way

George tries to calm down Kirk

Telling Kirk the story of the goat that left the barn open

What is the name of this story anyway?

Trying to remember the moral to close the barn door

This dream is really confusing

The Barn Door That Opened The Barn

Is this some sort of metaphorical discussion?

Then we all start talking nonsense

Kirk calls his mother

Kirk hangs up

And then I woke up

Assistant’s Dream

The Boy Who Cried Goat

Quirky guests and a backdrop of whimsy

A young boy comes in from the town

A goat, wandering your halls in the evening

People start noticing goat sounds and chewed up tin cans

Everyone looks for this goat

The Goat of the Night

Dick stays up to catch the goat

The goat from Larry, Daryl, and Daryl’s past

Holding a nightly goat conference

The goat becomes the mascot of the inn

Dream Analysis

Hiding figs under your pancakes

Resistance and Acceptance – Freud

Jung – resisting an inner part of your shadow self

You’re avoiding something unpleasant but beneficial

Figs could be a time capsule to a past event

Reluctance to revisit past decisions

What if the figs have the power to alter reality?

A surreal conversation about life

A rebellion in Flavortown

Unacknowledged, wild parts of your psyche

Or maybe too many responsibilities

A musical message in Kirk’s song choice

Is this about keeping emotions in check?

A symbol of things that need attention

A surreal musical rescue

Whimsical Governance Setting

The transformative potential of embracing chaos

Carrying Over the Threshold Tradition

A growing of sympathy

Themes of commitment and responsibility

What if it’s levitation and not carrying?

Or an invisible bond?

The invisible support system within relationships

An Eternal Honeymoon

A musical about romantic commitment

The Tongue Twister thing

Or maybe you were trying to cast a spell

Dimensional Speech Shift

Wordplay Wizardry

Maintaining authenticity in external situations

A truth-revealing ritual

A magical dance-off

An external council of elders who determine the truth

Confronting your own mirror truths

My assistant does love portals

Cheering in the bar

Is the bar the shadow aspect of the community?

Group dynamics and conformity

Mystical revelations

Classic time loop paradox

A spirit celebration

A symbolic act against modern constraints

Failed attempts to convey lesson and morals

A memory warp field

Inside a linguistic jumble machine

What if the inn is in an echo chamber?

A stage for exploring subjective realities

Bob talks about his week

I was finishing up with a client who collected Twinkies

Consuming Twinkies in various ways

Finally she gets through her obsession with Twinkies

But replaces that obsession with an obsession of me

It’s normal for people to fall in love with me

But that’s not real

It’s just Transference

I have another client waiting

I take her to Jerry’s for the time being

Jerry is making his own retainers

Then I got home

Emily is stuck in a turtleneck

We’re going out to a new restaurant

My client calls me at home

She’s buying twinkies!

Emily hears me talking about love with my client and isn’t happy

Students have transference for teachers, right Emily?

Explaining the transference to Emily

I love you, Emily!

Next Monday

Jerry is supposed to come over to watch football

My client calls or maybe is there

She wants to see me

Emily is cooking a lot of German food

I had to stay late to meet Ms. Walker

I was having trouble with professional / personal boundaries

Howard and Jerry are already there

Emily says it’s either her or the client

This happens all the time

She’s not happy with me

I have to figure this out

Finally the client got through it

She got to the other side of transference

Emily is pleased that it’s fixed

I feel like my communication is lacking

This chaos comes out of nowhere

I guess I’m kind of like Kirk in the dream

I could’ve communicated with Emily better

The therapist falls asleep

Bob will continue talking us off to sleep

Just take your time, Bob

Accepting these ups and downs and rolling with them

Goodnight

 

SUMMARY:

Episode: 1348

Title: Twinkie Transference | Dreaming of Newhart S1 E18

Plugs: Sleep With Me Plus; SleepPhones; Story Only Feed; Emily Tat Artwork; Crisis Textline

Sponsors: Helix Sleep; Zocdoc; Progressive; Acorns; Quince; Mint Mobile

Notable Language:

• Triple Nighttime Score
• Creaky Dulcets
• Secondary Imaginary Friend
• Niche Imaginary Friendship
• Chairman of the Bored
• TV Recap Dream Interpretation Series
• You gotta eat your figs, Dick
• Magically Resistant
• A Livestock-Free Bar
• The Goat of the Night
• A surreal musical rescue
• An Eternal Honeymoon
• Dimensional Speech Shift
• Wordplay Wizardry
• Classic time loop paradox
• Transference
• Bespoke Retainer

 

Notable Culture:

• Newhart

• The Bob Newhart Show

• • Scrabble
  • sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou
  • Dreaming of Newhart
  • Bob Newhart
  • “Don’t cry out loud” song
  • “Who Let the Dogs Out?”

• Saturday Night Live

• Sherlock Holmes
• Twinkies

 

Notable Talking Points:

• Thoughts, I have a lot of them
• I don’t know that I’ve never had a triple word score
• I’ve never been good at Scrabble
• Triple Nighttime Score is thoughts, feelings, and physical sensations all at once
• Getting a sense you’re not alone
• I feel subtle performance pressure from so much sleep media
• The magical armoire where my inner child’s toys are stored
• I really hope this can help you
• You deserve to not dread bedtime
• An ally, a borebud
• Creaky Dulcets
• My imperfect friend I barely have to listen to
• Secondary Imaginary Friend
• I”ll be your SIF
• I’m just there to drone you to bed
• sleepwithmepodcast.com/nothankyou
• A whole new era of imaginary friends
• Niche Imaginary Friendship
• I wonder if we’ll remember these
• An imaginary friend who follows the rules for you
• I’m just here to barely engage you
• I’m not good enough at misdirection
• Chairman of the Bored but also the Boreman
• Your best bore friend for right now
• How most people listen to the show
• Explaining the structure of the show
• Having a variety of ways to listen
• I have to have variety but some people prefer repetition
• Tonight is Dreaming of Newhart
• We never really decipher the meaning of these dreams
• Thanks for coming by
• We’re gonna take a break because the show went off of streaming
• I hope you’ve enjoyed the series
• TV Recap Dream Interpretation Series
• Explaining the show
• The dream situation wasn’t a theory, it was actually true
• Deciphering Robert Hartley’s dreams
• Let’s turn it over to Robert and the dude he works with
• Welcome Bob, to our last session for a while
• Talking about dreams
• It’s been great working together
• I do enjoy the repetitive dream of being a Vermont innkeeper
• I don’t want to lose that
• This week was so full of growth opportunity
• But I can’t connect it to my dream at all
• Explaining the dream
• We’re having breakfast in the inn
• Joanne says I need to eat my figs
• You gotta eat your figs, Dick
• I don’t want to
• Kirk comes in, breathless
• Then Kirk starts singing a song
• Livestock got loose in his cafe
• They ruined his cafe
• We’ll help Kirk resolve this and clean up
• Honeymooners showed up at the inn
• My wife asks why I never carry her up the stairs
• Someone comes to help Kirk with the livestock situation
• But I could only talk in tongue twisters
• I’m too busy Fib Flubbing
• The newlyweds kept carrying one another around the inn
• If I can’t have figs, I’ll need to eat oats
• Kirk is mad I could only speak in tongue twisters
• I get defensive
• Kirk is frustrated with me
• I try to make it up to Kirk
• Kirk says he has to go down to their office and wear a magical robe and hat
• Kirk wants me to drive him down there
• Putting on a magical robe and hat
• Something is blocking their magic
• I try it on to unblock the magic
• Then I started mewing like a cat
• As far as we know, no livestock have opposable thumbs
• Opposable thumbs is the only way to get into a cafe
• They’ll keep looking into it
• Who’s putting livestock in Kirk’s store
• He’s 100% almost positive he didn’t just leave the door open
• Kirk is naturally magic resistant
• Magically Resistant
• By way of magic, he’s magically resistant
• They have to go to the town pub to dig deeper
• Kirk offers a reward
• A Livestock-Free Bar
• Kirk has quite the reputation everywhere
• Everyone laughs at Kirk’s reward offer
• They’re cheering for the livestock
• George wanted to learn how to sew, also, by the way
• George tries to calm down Kirk
• Telling Kirk the story of the goat that left the barn open
• What is the name of this story anyway?
• Trying to remember the moral to close the barn door
• This dream is really confusing
• The Barn Door That Opened The Barn
• Is this some sort of metaphorical discussion?
• Then we all start talking nonsense
• Kirk calls his mother
• Kirk hangs up
• And then I woke up
• Assistant’s Dream
• The Boy Who Cried Goat
• Quirky guests and a backdrop of whimsy
• A young boy comes in from the town
• A goat, wandering your halls in the evening
• People start noticing goat sounds and chewed up tin cans
• Everyone looks for this goat
• The Goat of the Night
• Dick stays up to catch the goat
• The goat from Larry, Daryl, and Daryl’s past
• Holding a nightly goat conference
• The goat becomes the mascot of the inn
• Dream Analysis
• Hiding figs under your pancakes
• Resistance and Acceptance – Freud
• Jung – resisting an inner part of your shadow self
• You’re avoiding something unpleasant but beneficial
• Figs could be a time capsule to a past event
• Reluctance to revisit past decisions
• What if the figs have the power to alter reality?
• A surreal conversation about life
• A rebellion in Flavortown
• Unacknowledged, wild parts of your psyche
• Or maybe too many responsibilities
• A musical message in Kirk’s song choice
• Is this about keeping emotions in check?
• A symbol of things that need attention
• A surreal musical rescue
• Whimsical Governance Setting
• The transformative potential of embracing chaos
• Carrying Over the Threshold Tradition
• A growing of sympathy
• Themes of commitment and responsibility
• What if it’s levitation and not carrying?
• Or an invisible bond?
• The invisible support system within relationships
• An Eternal Honeymoon
• A musical about romantic commitment
• The Tongue Twister thing
• Or maybe you were trying to cast a spell
• Dimensional Speech Shift
• Wordplay Wizardry
• Maintaining authenticity in external situations
• A truth-revealing ritual
• A magical dance-off
• An external council of elders who determine the truth
• Confronting your own mirror truths
• My assistant does love portals
• Cheering in the bar
• Is the bar the shadow aspect of the community?
• Group dynamics and conformity
• Mystical revelations
• Classic time loop paradox
• A spirit celebration
• A symbolic act against modern constraints
• Failed attempts to convey lesson and morals
• A memory warp field
• Inside a linguistic jumble machine
• What if the inn is in an echo chamber?
• A stage for exploring subjective realities
• Bob talks about his week
• I was finishing up with a client who collected Twinkies
• Consuming Twinkies in various ways
• Finally she gets through her obsession with Twinkies
• But replaces that obsession with an obsession of me
• It’s normal for people to fall in love with me
• But that’s not real
• It’s just Transference
• I have another client waiting
• I take her to Jerry’s for the time being
• Jerry is making his own retainers
• Then I got home
• Emily is stuck in a turtleneck
• We’re going out to a new restaurant
• My client calls me at home
• She’s buying twinkies!
• Emily hears me talking about love with my client and isn’t happy
• Students have transference for teachers, right Emily?
• Explaining the transference to Emily
• I love you, Emily!
• Next Monday
• Jerry is supposed to come over to watch football
• My client calls or maybe is there
• She wants to see me
• Emily is cooking a lot of German food
• I had to stay late to meet Ms. Walker
• I was having trouble with professional / personal boundaries
• Howard and Jerry are already there
• Emily says it’s either her or the client
• This happens all the time
• She’s not happy with me
• I have to figure this out
• Finally the client got through it
• She got to the other side of transference
• Emily is pleased that it’s fixed
• I feel like my communication is lacking
• This chaos comes out of nowhere
• I guess I’m kind of like Kirk in the dream
• I could’ve communicated with Emily better
• The therapist falls asleep
• Bob will continue talking us off to sleep
• Just take your time, Bob
• Accepting these ups and downs and rolling with them
• Goodnight